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U.S. Census!!!!!!!!!
Self | March 1 | A U.S. Citizen

Posted on 03/01/2010 12:24:33 PM PST by briarbey b

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To: birddog

If they make it to my door, they better be able to run back to the gate in less than 30 seconds, because my German Shepherd sure can ; )


61 posted on 03/01/2010 1:23:50 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: snarkpup
Ten Questions

Are you a citizen of the United States is not one of them.

I thought the Census was used to determine the number of representatives from your state?

62 posted on 03/01/2010 1:28:19 PM PST by TYVets (Let's Roll!!! The leadership of the GOP has no spine and no guts, but we conservatives do)
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To: snarkpup

so if I put “human” for race, will I get a special visit?


63 posted on 03/01/2010 1:31:04 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: briarbey b

For those who are toowimpy to refuse, we also have the Clinton Option: be truthful but not helpful.

My race? HUMAN.

Other questions will get similar answers. You want my phone number? 555-1212 (information), since you can get my phone number there.


64 posted on 03/01/2010 1:32:05 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: jdub

You do realize that by being a stranger and coming onto my property past the many “Do Not Trespass” and “Beware of Dog” signs we have posted, that my dog has every right to defend his property, right?


65 posted on 03/01/2010 1:36:02 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: briarbey b

I saw an article begging people to fill out the census.

According to the article, in Travis county, TX. 16,000 were not counted in the last census, causing the county to lose $250,000,000.

Is this even possible?


66 posted on 03/01/2010 1:43:39 PM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: RWGinger

“They deliver it”

Don’t you understand this is “job creation” provided by hard working Americans.

Credit to be piled on the bozo -resident.

Now in addition to an affirmative action -resident, we have affirmative action census takers!


67 posted on 03/01/2010 1:48:09 PM PST by tiger63
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To: birddog

Yeh and I will set out my 2 and a half pound yorkie.


68 posted on 03/01/2010 1:49:18 PM PST by jimpick
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To: briarbey b

Posted this on another thread. This came to me via email through DoD channels:

WARNING: 2010 Census Cautions from the Better Business Bureau

Be Cautious About Giving Info to Census Workers
by Susan Johnson

With the U.S. Census process beginning, the Better Business Bureau (BBB) advises people to be cooperative, but cautious, so as not to become a victim of fraud or identity theft. The first phase of the 2010 U.S. Census is under way as workers have begun verifying the addresses of households across the country. Eventually, more than 140,000 U.S. Census workers will count every person in the United States and will gather information about every person living at each address including name, age, gender, race, and other relevant data.

The big question is - how do you tell the difference between a U.S. Census worker and a con artist? BBB offers the following advice:

** If a U.S. Census worker knocks on your door, they will have a badge, a handheld device, a Census Bureau canvas bag, and a confidentiality notice. Ask to see their identification and their badge before answering their questions. However, you should never invite anyone you don’t know into your home.

** Census workers are currently only knocking on doors to verify address information.

Do not give your Social Security number, credit card or banking information to anyone, even if they claim they need it for the U.S. Census.

REMEMBER, NO MATTER WHAT THEY ASK, YOU REALLY ONLY NEED TO TELL THEM HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE AT YOUR ADDRESS.

While the Census Bureau might ask for basic financial information, such as a salary range, YOU DON’T HAVE TO ANSWER ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT YOUR FINANCIAL SITUATION.

The Census Bureau will not ask for Social Security, bank account, or credit card numbers, nor will employees solicit donations. Any one asking for that information is NOT with the Census Bureau.

AND REMEMBER, THE CENSUS BUREAU HAS DECIDED NOT TO WORK WITH ACORN ON GATHERING THIS INFORMATION.. No ACORN worker should approach you saying he/she is with the Census Bureau.

Eventually, Census workers may contact you by telephone, mail, or in person at home. However, the Census Bureau will not contact you by Email, so be on the lookout for Email scams impersonating the Census.


69 posted on 03/01/2010 1:51:36 PM PST by ScottinVA (Glad to see Demonic Unhinged (DU) highlights and attacks my FR comments!)
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To: I Buried My Guns
I have not returned any census mailing for 20 years and even mailed a couple back with similar notes. Never heard a word. BUT until now 0 was not in charge.
70 posted on 03/01/2010 1:57:11 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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To: Cold Heat

CONSTITUION
Yeah, that will work...........????
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Roflol...awww jeesshh I’m sorry..I was mad!! lol


71 posted on 03/01/2010 1:57:39 PM PST by briarbey b (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: I see my hands

Already sealed it....and I have not figured out how to post pics on FR for what....10 yrs. now?? lol


72 posted on 03/01/2010 2:00:46 PM PST by briarbey b (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: savedbygrace

I promise I spelled it right when I wrote it!!! lol


73 posted on 03/01/2010 2:02:22 PM PST by briarbey b (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: birddog

I wouldn’t take it..he threw it through the door..lol.said it HAD to leave it!!


74 posted on 03/01/2010 2:03:06 PM PST by briarbey b (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: jdub

you do realize that the census worker who comes to your door is just someone who lives in your neighborhood, who is trying to make some extra money from a temporary job, and not a full fledged federal employee, right?
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I don’t care....:) they are working for the enemy.


75 posted on 03/01/2010 2:06:30 PM PST by briarbey b (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: mplsconservative

To FUNNY...I hope they are getting some grief...not because they are working but because they will go back and complain!!!! Make them complain and HATE doing this for the gov. It is merely a statement and a stand.


76 posted on 03/01/2010 2:08:36 PM PST by briarbey b (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: ScottinVA

I would have to lie about how many people live at my residence. I certainly don’t want to tell a census taker that I live alone.


77 posted on 03/01/2010 2:13:45 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: ImaTexan

ping


78 posted on 03/01/2010 2:41:19 PM PST by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: CARTOUCHE

Let me help...
“The actual Enumeration shall be made...in such Manner as they shall by Law direct.”

In other words, they must count individual people to arrive at a number, but if they figure out that one way of counting works better than others, they can make law say that’s how it’s to be done.

I do see how they could require everyone to fill out a form; or come outside at 6:00 AM on a given day, so counters in jeeps could come by and count them; or have everyone return to the city of his birth to be registered (see Luke 2). I’m just as glad they send out forms, myself.

I don’t see anything about skin color or number of bathrooms in there, so I’d be just fine with spoofing any such question.


79 posted on 03/01/2010 2:52:23 PM PST by ExGeeEye (Talk To The Hand-- Palin 2012)
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To: CARTOUCHE
Enumerate
enumerate vb 1 : to determine the number of

OK, then any question which does not ask for a specific number is not Constitutionally required information.

And as another poster has pointed out, the Fifth Amendment protects us from having to divulge information that could be used against us by the government.

Fourth Amendment: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated...

Our personal information should/could be considered papers or effects and collection or confiscation under force of law or threat of jail would be a "violation".

Fifth Amendment: ...nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself...

Can you assure everyone that NONE of the information will be used by the government [local, state or federal] at some future time for some reason against the person who provided that information? I think the Miranda warning states "can and will be used against you in a court of law". That's why you don't say anything to a law enforcement officer for any reason. Up until they read you your Miranda rights, anything you say can be used, even if you are not the one involved... you could be if the LEO's decide to charge you with something.

Fifth Amendment: nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law...

Courts have ruled that your personal data or information is "property", so again, where's the due process afforded requiring you to divulge your personal information?

Fourteenth Amendment: 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.

It seems that this wording indicates again that the "enumeration" is based upon "whole number of persons" and not how many toilets are in their dwelling or how many hours they work or if they are in fact employed, etc. Again, "whole number of persons", not dwellings, toilets, relatives, cat, dogs, livestock or whatever the form has on it.

These are just off the top of my head. I'm sure I could find enough court cases or case law to back up the ownership or privacy of our personal data to the point that it would be difficult for the government to pursue any criminal or civil case against a person who gave only the number, and possibly ages, to the census bureau. Just the fact that you never hear of anyone being charged or prosecuted for withholding information or refusing to provide it. If there were any cases, the government would trumpet it to high heavens during the census. That they don't says even more.

80 posted on 03/01/2010 3:12:41 PM PST by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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