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McCain bill will aim to split Medicare from reconciliation
Politico ^ | February 28, 2010 | Staff

Posted on 03/01/2010 12:47:12 AM PST by yoe

On the verge of a procedural fight over health care, Arizona Sen. John McCain, the Republican's presidential nominee in 2008, said Sunday that he plans to introduce legislation that would prevent Congress from changing Medicare through a process that only requires a simple majority in the Senate.

“Social Security cannot be considered in reconciliation,' McCain said on NBC's "Meet the Press," referring to a rule established in the 1970s by veteran Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.). "We should do the same thing with Medicare. (Sen.) Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and I will be introducing legislation: Entitlements should not be part of a reconciliation process -- i.e., 51 votes. It’s too important. … Let’s start over. … It’s not too late.”

Democrats are trying to cut hundreds of billions of dollars from Medicare to pay for their health care bill, something that wouldn't be possible under McCain's proposal.

McCain also took exception with some of the deals cut with industries and individual senators to build support for the various bills. He cited protections for the pharmaceutical industry that would block the reimportation of prescription drugs and preserve a favorable reimbursement structure for drug makers under Medicare.

"These are unsavory deals," McCain said. "People object to the process as much as they object to the product."

The Arizona senator also rejected the suggestion that Democrats genuinely wanted to work with GOP lawmakers.

"There is no doubt in my mind that this is a center-right country, and this administration is governing from the left.," McCain said. "We need to start over,"


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; gophealthcare; medicare
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Reconciliation has been part of the Obama plan from the get-go, he reportedly told his 'base' (Unions) not to worry, if he couldn't get the votes, he would use reconciliation....except now he finds it may be illegal used this way...that never stopped Obama before.......
1 posted on 03/01/2010 12:47:12 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe
Dems are fools... Baby Boomers will bounce anyone who votes for cuts in Social Security or Medicare in Fall 2010 elections.

Scott Brown win should tell the maggots that their day is done if they forge ahead.

95% of the Boomers are counting on these programs which by the way they were conned into paying for by the Dems all these years.

Statement based on MA Dems --> family and friends ... they are ticked off.

2 posted on 03/01/2010 1:05:58 AM PST by xtinct (The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you..Be Strong Patriots!)
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To: yoe

Here comes McStain, reaching across the aisle.

Meeting the Communists halfway....


3 posted on 03/01/2010 1:28:42 AM PST by StopObama2012 (CLICK ME to expose Osaudi)
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To: yoe

By the time McCrap is done, we’ll be praying to Mecca under enormous portraits of Chairman Mao.


4 posted on 03/01/2010 1:29:53 AM PST by StopObama2012 (CLICK ME to expose Osaudi)
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To: StopObama2012

ROFLMAO!


5 posted on 03/01/2010 1:32:23 AM PST by Mister Muggles (.Seattle: A city full of Liberal men with vaginas.)
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To: xtinct
I have never been able to stand McCain, but this is a brilliant move as well as being factually true. I have been telling my students and my 29 YO twins not to count on SS and Medicare, but the baby boomers (including me) HAVE been counting on it. I will be blessed to have full NC state retirement as well as my health insurance when I retire in a few years, but it is designed to be supplemented by SS and Medicare. "Sleazy Easley" (who may be indicted for some of his other activities as governor) and the Dems illegally borrowed from the NC State Retirement system a few years ago, so I may be in trouble there as well.

I am watching a fascinating Hannity special right now called Generation Zero which is outlining how BOTH parties (but especially the Dems) have been leading us into a situation that may eventually bankrupt the United States. It is actually a documentary film that has been produced by David Bosse and directed by Steve Bannon. It is frightening to think that this has happened to our country and that it has accelerated so much since Obama was elected and the Dems were given free reign in Washington. They MUST be stopped!
6 posted on 03/01/2010 1:55:27 AM PST by srmorton (Chose Life!)
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To: xtinct

Linking this to the Hayworth/McCain Headline Roundup:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2456305/posts?page=90

I’m hoping this is just a poison pill, but McCain has a track record of gullibility, such as being “misled” about the bailout.

I HOPE that Hayworth’s primary pressure at the very least helps make McCain sharper.

— FRegards ....


7 posted on 03/01/2010 2:00:43 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Barack Hussein Obama, mmm, mmm, mmm. [Geniuses don't pick their nose.])
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It could be a smart poison pill that unravels this entire process. It exposes the slashes on seniors. If seniors aren’t slashed, then the bill becomes surprisingly expensive. But this is McCain — a name you can’t trust.


8 posted on 03/01/2010 2:02:41 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Barack Hussein Obama, mmm, mmm, mmm. [Geniuses don't pick their nose.])
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To: yoe
Democrats are trying to cut hundreds of billions of dollars from Medicare to pay for their health care bill....

Republicans failed to take advantage of a perfect opportunity at last week's "summit". When Democrats reiterated their claim that they could save hundreds of billions by eliminating fraud and waste in Medicare, the Republicans should have demanded that those corrections happen immediately. Every day we wait costs Americans billions. Why not eliminate the fraud and waste TODAY!? Why does it have to be part of health legislation!

9 posted on 03/01/2010 2:36:32 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT (General, sir, it's ok to call me "ma'am"!)
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"except now he finds it may be illegal used this way"

The most recent discussion I've heard is reconciliation is legal but rarely used for bills like this. Do you have more up to date info re: legality?

10 posted on 03/01/2010 2:48:08 AM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: yoe

McCain is feeling the heat at home.


11 posted on 03/01/2010 3:37:47 AM PST by Redleg Duke
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To: newfreep

“Legality” is probably the wrong word. It is a matter of complying with Senate rules, not enacted law.

As far as I know.


12 posted on 03/01/2010 3:51:59 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: srmorton
I will be blessed to have full NC state retirement as well as my health insurance when I retire in a few years

You are very unlikely to have either one.

13 posted on 03/01/2010 3:55:12 AM PST by Jim Noble (Hu's the communist?)
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To: John Valentine

I continue to fear MAO-bama & his comrades will eventually force their socialism on us.


14 posted on 03/01/2010 4:06:24 AM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: yoe

“”There is no doubt in my mind that this is a center-right country, and this administration is governing from the left.,” McCain said.”

Make up your mind, McCain. Are we a ‘center-right’ country, which you’ve said in the past is a bad thing???

“This kind of rhetoric, I think, is not helpful in educating and helping the American people make a choice,” McCain said on “The Early Show” on CBS. “You know, it’s the most bitter and partisan campaign that I’ve ever observed. I think it’s because both parties are going to their bases rather than going to the middle. I regret it.”[snip]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4555261/

And if you’re so concerned about our ‘healthcare’, why push legislation to restrict our freedom to buy supplements??


15 posted on 03/01/2010 6:31:29 AM PST by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: yoe

“(Sen.) Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and I will be introducing legislation”

When these two team up, you know it’s not going to be good.

J. D. Hayworth for Senate.


16 posted on 03/01/2010 6:41:17 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: yoe

For a former Military man it is shameful he hasn’t taken the lead to get the BIG NEW FEES in Tricare for Life the secondary health ins. for over 65 retired Military REPEALED, they were promised for their service to their country.

OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them.

Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!
Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543

Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins.
(DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!

OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake. http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Friday, February 19, 2010

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security
http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460988/posts

SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2461394/posts
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm
Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.
Snip The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Snip

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.


17 posted on 03/01/2010 6:45:52 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: yoe

Screw you, McCrap, it’s too late!


18 posted on 03/01/2010 10:43:49 AM PST by StopObama2012 (CLICK ME to expose Osaudi)
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To: yoe

Yeah... right... this’ll pass... /s


19 posted on 03/01/2010 12:27:21 PM PST by pabianice
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To: GailA

When I enlisted I was promised free medical care for life if I stayed long enough to retire. I retired. Somehow, that free medical care never showed-up...


20 posted on 03/01/2010 12:28:49 PM PST by pabianice
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