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Academy Women to Become First Female Submariners (stupid idea)
American Forces Press Service ^ | Lisa Daniel

Posted on 02/26/2010 4:44:12 PM PST by SandRat

WASHINGTON, Feb. 26, 2010 – Female sailors will begin serving on submarines by the end of next year, with Naval Academy graduates leading the way, Navy leaders told a Senate committee yesterday.

Navy Secretary Ray Mabus told the Senate Armed Services Committee that the Navy is in a good position to move forward with integrating women onto submarines.

“We think we learned a lot about integrating women in the services years ago, and those lessons are relevant today,” Mabus said. Those lessons, he said, include having a “critical mass” of female candidates, having senior women to serve as mentors, and having submarines that don’t require modifications: the SSBN ballistic missile and SSGN guided-missile subs.

Finally, Mabus said, “We have the lesson learned to make sure any questions are answered, … and we’re very open and transparent on how we’ll do this. We think this is a great idea that will enhance our warfighting capabilities.”

Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates notified Congress on Feb. 19 of the intended change to Navy policy. Mabus had pushed for the change since taking office in May. Adm. Gary Roughead, chief of naval operations, endorsed the change, saying in a statement released in September that his experience commanding a mixed-gender surface-combatant ship makes him “very comfortable” integrating women into the submarine force. The Navy changed its policy to allow women to serve on combatant ships in 1993.

“We have a great plan, and we’re ready to go for the first women to come aboard in late 2011,” Roughead told the Senate committee yesterday. In a prepared statement to the committee, he said the change would enable the submarine force “to leverage the tremendous talent and potential of our female officers and enlisted personnel.”

Besides the incoming officers from the academy, the first women submariners will include female supply corps officers at the department head level, Roughead said. The change will be phased in over time to include enlisted female sailors on the SSBN and SSGNs, he said. Women will be added to the Navy’s SSN fast-attack submarines after necessary modifications can be determined, he said.

“This initiative has my personal attention, and I will continue to keep you informed as we integrate these highly motivated and capable officers into our submarine force,” Roughead told the committee.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bhodod; bhosecdef; submarines; submatines; usna; usnavy; women
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To: T. P. Pole; jra
You've been here over 10 years and haven't seen that before? Wow.

When you hardly ever post here, that's understandable. Three pages into his posting history take you back 3 years.

It's no wonder he's out of touch with what's going on.

41 posted on 02/26/2010 5:05:32 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ansel12

It’s part of the charm that makes DU sofa king wee todd did.


42 posted on 02/26/2010 5:05:34 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: SandRat
Well it didn't take long for this thread to be not worth reading. Oh and thanks to the FR who once again reiterated that women get knocked without any mention of a guy's role in the matter. Bash away you manly men.
43 posted on 02/26/2010 5:06:19 PM PST by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: jra

It’s a stupid idea.


44 posted on 02/26/2010 5:07:18 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic

Ma’am, we’ll sign you up for duty on the USS PMS.


45 posted on 02/26/2010 5:07:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: ansel12

Well the parenthetical (editorial) remark called it a stupid idea. If one’s goal is to maintain the efficiency and effectiveness of the US military it is a stupid idea. If one wants to reduce the effectiveness and efficiency of the US military it’s positively brilliant. Obama and his people must love this.


46 posted on 02/26/2010 5:07:40 PM PST by hometoroost (I am not a crook, I did not have sex with that woman, and I am not an ideologue.)
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To: SandRat; jra
Someone who's so knowledgeable about the workings of FR vs DU ought to know enough to know about courtesy pings.

Sheesh.

47 posted on 02/26/2010 5:08:07 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: jra
Sure, I’ve seen parenthetical statements...but they’ve gotten way out of hand lately. Some semblance of decorum would be nice—and as I said, it’s presumptuous to assume one has been given the authority to post his/her opinion as universal.

Actually, it's presumptuous to assume that the OP intends his/her parenthetical title opinion to be universal. You see, this is a conservative site, and people here generally do not presume anyone is ever talking for "the group." But when paid Rat trolls come on and use previously stored screen names to try to inject liberal political correctness, they don't know that.

Oh, you made a slick try at recovery when exposed for not recognizing a commonly accepted FR conceit, claiming "parenthetical comments have lately gotten way out of hand" - (really? where are your examples?). And of course your pathetic (but common liberal) effort to imagine conservatives can be controlled through "decorum scolding" had to be tried, now didn't it? But overall, you're like every other leftist poseur that tries his luck here - you're transparent, rather than invisible.

Just to make sure you understand clearly - I'm laughing at you, troll.

48 posted on 02/26/2010 5:09:10 PM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: All

Cat fight! Cat fight!


49 posted on 02/26/2010 5:09:21 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: SandRat

Wow. This is going to give a whole new meaning to ‘’going down’’. I don’t think this is a good idea.


50 posted on 02/26/2010 5:09:26 PM PST by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: jra

Are you serious? If you don’t put (Barf Alert) in the title, your thread will be clogged up with 25 or 30 people saying, ‘Where’s the Barf Alert?’.


51 posted on 02/26/2010 5:10:15 PM PST by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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To: namsman

Submarine ping. Just one...


52 posted on 02/26/2010 5:12:39 PM PST by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: Talisker

Feelings understandably run deep on both sides, and it’s not immediately clear that it’s as idiotic as, say, a gay Navy, especially if they segregate the sexes. I’d feel a lot better about it if this were an experimental project, not a general announcement of policy. Methinks, personally, a mixed crew is just asking for cat fights and sexual harassment.


53 posted on 02/26/2010 5:13:00 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: LuvFreeRepublic
Yes it is yet another woman bashing thread. They are all to common here on FR lately.

They post crap and wonder why people call conservatives racists, and sexist, etc.

Common decency does not apply at FR anymore.

54 posted on 02/26/2010 5:13:31 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: jra

You’re also allowed a tag line after your screen name, just in case you never noticed that, either.


55 posted on 02/26/2010 5:14:29 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (I think not, therefore I don't exist!)
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To: hometoroost

Sorry about that, I really did misunderstand your first comment.

Now when I read it I see it correctly, thanks for the patience.


56 posted on 02/26/2010 5:15:04 PM PST by ansel12 (Social liberal politicians in the GOP are easy for the left to turn, why is that?)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Mixed crews in cramped quarters for long trips are a bad idea. I think both ladies and gentlemen can agree on that.


57 posted on 02/26/2010 5:15:07 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Whether I agree or not, the total disrespect of women in general is sickening.


58 posted on 02/26/2010 5:16:24 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: ansel12

No problem - I figured it was just a simple misunderstanding.


59 posted on 02/26/2010 5:17:39 PM PST by hometoroost (I am not a crook, I did not have sex with that woman, and I am not an ideologue.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Touchy, touchy.


60 posted on 02/26/2010 5:18:43 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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