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ANALYSIS-Scientists examine causes for lull in warming
Reuters ^ | 25 Feb 2010 14:59:01 GMT | Gerard Wynn and Alister Doyle

Posted on 02/25/2010 8:43:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Source: Reuters

* Exact causes unknown for lack of warming from 1999-2008

* The underlying reason for cold winter not known

* Climate science in focus after email scandal, errors

By Gerard Wynn and Alister Doyle

LONDON/OSLO, Feb 25 (Reuters) - Climate scientists must do more to work out how exceptionally cold winters or a dip in world temperatures fit their theories of global warming, if they are to persuade an increasingly sceptical public.

At stake is public belief that greenhouse gas emissions are warming the planet, and political momentum to act as governments struggle to agree a climate treaty which could direct trillions of dollars into renewable energy, away from fossil fuels.

Public conviction of global warming's risks may have been undermined by an error in a U.N. panel report exaggerating the pace of melt of Himalayan glaciers and by the disclosure of hacked emails revealing scientists sniping at sceptics, who leapt on these as evidence of data fixing.

Scientists said they must explain better how a freezing winter this year in parts of the northern hemisphere and a break in a rising trend in global temperatures since 1998 can happen when heat-trapping gases are pouring into the atmosphere.

"There is a lack of consensus," said Kevin Trenberth, head of the Climate Analysis Section at the U.S. National Center for Atmospheric Research, on why global temperatures have not matched a peak set in 1998, or in 2005 according to one U.S. analysis. For a table of world temperatures: [ID:nLDE6050Y5]

Part of the explanation could be a failure to account for rapid warming in parts of the Arctic, where sea ice had melted, and where there were fewer monitoring stations, he said.

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To: dila813

The Bankers want action so the propaganda continues...see the second link at post #34.


41 posted on 02/25/2010 11:09:17 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“”There is a lack of consensus,” said Kevin Trenberth, head of the Climate Analysis Section at the U.S. National Center for Atmospheric Research, on why global temperatures have not matched a peak set in 1998, or in 2005 according to one U.S. analysis.”

This is the guy who, in private in the climategate emails, called the failure of their models to predict the past 12 years temperatures was a “travesty.” And that the climate modelers really had no idea how to explain energy flows in the atmosphere.


42 posted on 02/25/2010 11:22:11 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
There is a lack of consensus

No sh*t, Sherlock. At least you got that part right.

There has been a decided lack of consensus from the start, and that would have been evident if you did not treat the scientists who do not agree with you like the data that did not agree with AGW theories and models.

43 posted on 02/25/2010 11:27:35 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I remember a heat wave a decade ago in which two days out of a month almost reached the all time record high temperatures. That weather anomaly was proof of global warming. Now we have a cold winter in which we get all-time record snow with temperatures well below average, and what is that? A “pause” in global warming.


44 posted on 02/25/2010 11:52:15 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks!!


45 posted on 02/26/2010 1:29:29 AM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Army Air Corps; marvlus; IrishCatholic; Carlucci; Desdemona; meyer; ...
Thanx !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

46 posted on 02/26/2010 2:32:23 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Warmists as "traffic light" apocalyptics: "Greens too yellow to admit they're really Reds."-Monckton)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All

Real Science has ceased to exist, and its been replaced by a monitary whore.


47 posted on 02/26/2010 2:36:19 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

When the planet is warming is it considered a lull in the cooling...just wondering.

48 posted on 02/26/2010 8:02:14 AM PST by StACase (Global Warming is CRAP!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Scientists said they must explain better how a freezing winter this year in parts of the northern hemisphere and a break in a rising trend in global temperatures since 1998 can happen when heat-trapping gases are pouring into the atmosphere.


49 posted on 02/26/2010 10:30:27 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "the Thrilla from Wasilla")
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Where does carbon dioxide go on vacation?"
Into the deep blue COLD oceans of earth.
50 posted on 02/26/2010 12:20:06 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: I see my hands
Look! I can make my comment super-special by putting a box around it too. Look! I'm the exception!
Yes, it really is gay to draw attention to YOUR post by putting a cute little box around it, "I see my hands."

51 posted on 02/27/2010 9:42:30 PM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All
Making the data fit the theories..... That is what they have been doing with reducing the bad (too cold)recording stations and cherry picking their data very carefully...got to keep the money coming thru the Global warming research grants....

From Eisenhower's farewell address 1961: "Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers. The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present -- and is gravely to be regarded."

52 posted on 03/02/2010 5:53:59 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Climate scientists must do more to work out how exceptionally cold winters or a dip in world temperatures fit their theories of global warming, if they are to persuade an increasingly sceptical public.

AGW alarmists must do more to fabricate data how exceptionally cold winters or a dip in world temperatures fit their manipulated models of global warming, if they are to continue to defraud increasingly aware and informed, but gullible public. *** Corrected***

53 posted on 03/02/2010 10:23:54 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 43... 42... 41...)
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To: hosepipe

I just came back from Yosemite National Park and saw the Visitor’s Center.

A prominent plaque declares that manmade global warming is a coming catastrophe that may not be averted if we don’t act now.

Not 50 feet away was a monitor showing North America covered by glaciers some 16,000 years ago, and showing them progressively recede into northern Canada over a 16,000 year span of continuous, natural global warming.

I kid you not.

As if nobody is supposed to look at that 16,000 years of evidence of natural global warming when they consider man’s impact, or lack thereof, on the planet’s climate.


54 posted on 03/02/2010 10:27:47 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 43... 42... 41...)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
See #34 and link to Dr. Lindzen....he mentions that and talks about propaganda...
55 posted on 03/02/2010 12:09:50 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

You are thinking too much,....not suppose to do that.


56 posted on 03/02/2010 12:11:09 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Gore's latest rant actually confirms what Lintzen said about AGW and superstition.

Lintzen Nov. 2009: Our perceptions of nature are similarly dragged back centuries so that the normal occasional occurrences of open water in summer over the North Pole, droughts, floods, hurricanes, sea-level variations, etc. are all taken as omens, portending doom due to our sinful ways (as epitomized by our carbon footprint).

Gore Feb. 2010: From the standpoint of governance, what is at stake is our ability to use the rule of law as an instrument of human redemption.

IOW we must be "saved" from our "sinful ways."

57 posted on 03/02/2010 12:50:34 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Gore knows the Religious “Lingo” but I don't think he is a practitioner at any other place than the worship of AGW.
58 posted on 03/02/2010 1:58:25 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Gore knows the Religious “Lingo” but I don't think he is a practitioner at any other place than the worship of AGW.

He is a "practicioner" like Jim Jones (of Jonestown) was.

59 posted on 03/03/2010 5:27:32 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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