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To: Stormdog
“What was live ammo doing there!”

Asking myself the same question.


Uh my CCL class in NC involved shooting our weapons to demonstrate proficiency. That means live ammo. PLEASE don't tell me there are states that issue a CCL without actually having you fire the weapon.....
31 posted on 02/21/2010 1:58:12 PM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: Kozak
>> PLEASE don't tell me there are states that issue a CCL without actually having you fire the weapon.....

Lots of 'em - check out handgunlaw.us

That having been said, NOBODY gets through our CCW courses without going to the range. We also keep the qualification target in our permanent files.

34 posted on 02/21/2010 2:02:24 PM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: Kozak
PLEASE don't tell me there are states that issue a CCL without actually having you fire the weapon.....

The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania is one. Why should I have to prove anything about my abilities, especially in an open carry state.

From our constitution:

Right to Bear Arms Section 21.

The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.

Where in there is anything about getting a license to conceal.

40 posted on 02/21/2010 2:21:33 PM PST by Stentor
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To: Kozak

No class should be needed, nor license for that matter, to carry a firearm. Whether a person shoots their firearm in a class doesn’t really matter if that class should not be a requirement in the first place.

Safety classes should be strongly recomended if the shooter thinks they need one, but not required.


60 posted on 02/21/2010 3:48:42 PM PST by Dayman (My 1919a4 is named Charlotte. When I light her up she has the voice of an angel.)
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To: Kozak

“PLEASE don’t tell me there are states that issue a CCL without actually having you fire the weapon.....”

MA doesn’t require it. They require a course but firing is not mandated.


61 posted on 02/21/2010 3:49:46 PM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Kozak
PLEASE don't tell me there are states that issue a CCL without actually having you fire the weapon.....

PA!

I have my CCL and never shot aqnyone;-)
71 posted on 02/21/2010 4:27:04 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: Kozak

South Dakota requires no class, no test, no firing profiency.

Fill out a one page form for the FBI background check. When it comes back clean (same day or next day), pay the sheriff $10 and he gives you your temporary CCW. About a week later your permanent one shows up in the mail.


81 posted on 02/21/2010 5:59:21 PM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Kozak

classroom vs range: ammo at the latter, not in the former.


86 posted on 02/22/2010 5:36:54 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("Roll back Pelosi" Rush Limbaugh, 2/12/10)
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To: Kozak
Uh my CCL class in NC involved shooting our weapons to demonstrate proficiency. That means live ammo. PLEASE don't tell me there are states that issue a CCL without actually having you fire the weapon.....

Generally speaking the classroom and the range are not the same place, although I've seen some that are mightly close. In fact the range were I took my CHL, now conducts the class outdoors, right behind the range, inside berms, with a sun shade over most of the area. It is in San Antonio, Texas after all. Alhtough when I took the class, the "classroom" was in a double wide trailer, and we walked out to the range, in the mist and muck.

When I renewed, I was too far from SA, so I took the class in a nice new building, in towards Austin, where the "school", shared a very nice facility with other users. But I shot for score at the same range that a certain Major Hassan used. Unlike Major Hassan, I did not take the course there, just used the range.

105 posted on 02/22/2010 4:46:31 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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