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We'll take Japan to court: PM
The Australian ^ | February 20, 2010 | Peter Alford and Matthew Franklin

Posted on 02/19/2010 5:54:44 PM PST by myknowledge

KEVIN Rudd has promised to take Japan to the International Court of Justice if it doesn't agree before November to stop Antarctic whaling, but a behind-closed-doors deal with the Japanese could blow a big hole in the Prime Minister's case before then.

A proposed compromise deal in the International Whaling Commission that would allow Japan to continue its so-called scientific whaling, though on a more limited basis, could wreck Australia's core claim that the practice is illegal under international law.

A tough talking Mr Rudd yesterday demanded Japan reduce to zero its Southern Ocean scientific whaling quota. "If we don't get that as a diplomatic agreement, let me tell you, we'll be going to the International Court of Justice," the Prime Minister said.

"Secondly if we don't reach a landing point with the Japanese diplomatically, that action will occur well before the commencement of the next whaling season, which is this November, OK?"

(Excerpt) Read more at theaustralian.com.au ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: icj; japan; kevinrudd; whaling
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Yeah, right, KRudd. Go for it and take Japan to the ICJ if you so dare. What a whale hugger he is.
1 posted on 02/19/2010 5:54:44 PM PST by myknowledge
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To: myknowledge

What’s wrong with whaling? I think SOMEONE has been taking Star Trek too seriously...
;)


2 posted on 02/19/2010 6:02:53 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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Yeah, right, KRudd. Go for it and take Japan to the ICJ if you so dare. What a whale hugger he is.

So you stand for wanton destruction of living beings.

3 posted on 02/19/2010 6:04:14 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: myknowledge

International Court of justice? What is that? Sounds like something as stupid, futile and irrelevant as the UN.


4 posted on 02/19/2010 6:05:14 PM PST by karnage (worn arguments and old attitudes)
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To: myknowledge

Look, people have been studying whales and ‘whale songs’ for quite a while.

Haven’t they identified a distress call yet?

Maybe instead of Greenpeace trying to ram large steel ships with zodiacs...

we could broadcast distress calls around the whaling ships and as in the old west...

turn the herd.

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Don’t get me wrong, I am not a tree or whale hugger, but do we really have to do this?

At the very least, we should hang it up for 20 years or so and let them replenish...

and not just whales,...

has anyone else read about the depletion of the worlds fishing grounds?


5 posted on 02/19/2010 6:07:12 PM PST by Nitro
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Do you like steak?


6 posted on 02/19/2010 6:19:51 PM PST by ASOC (In case of attack, tune to 640 kilocycles or 1240 kilocycles on your AM dial.)
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"International Court of justice? What is that? "

Superman, Batman, Aquaman, Super Twins etc. with all the authority they need to put the Japanese on double-secret probabtion.

7 posted on 02/19/2010 6:28:02 PM PST by The Good Doctor (Democracy is the only system where you can vote for a tax that you can avoid the obligation to pay.)
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Do you like steak?

Salmon steak from a stupid species that dies after it mates, yes.

Whale steak from an intelligent creature that would rather leave me alone, no.

8 posted on 02/19/2010 6:28:49 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Do you know the definition of wanton? Seriously!?

If you research the numbers harvested (killed, studied and eaten) by the Japanese, as compared to the numbers of whales in the wild, there would be no way that you would use the word “wanton” to describe the whaling that goes on. The amount of whales that Japan takes could be increased many times over and be sustainable. The whaling that happened prior to international whaling laws was wanton, truly, and unsustainable.

If you are going to make an argument against whaling you should at least attempt to formulate a valid argument based on factual information. Although, that may be difficult, because the only arguments against whaling that I have seen were based on erroneous information (like your argument) or based on emotion.


9 posted on 02/19/2010 6:31:31 PM PST by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

No, I’m just against Kevin Rudd’s advocation of taking the Japanese whalers to the ICJ. He has the same mindset as Greenpeace.


10 posted on 02/19/2010 6:33:20 PM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Whales are among the most intelligent beings on earth, and nobody really needs to eat them. In fact, eating our fellow mammals is probably not good for us. By all means, eat seafood, but eat lower on the food chain. It’s more efficient and better for your own body.


11 posted on 02/19/2010 6:41:59 PM PST by hellbender
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To: myknowledge

Japan will simply say, “It’s our CULTURE”, and to their mind, that will be THAT —finito..!

But do you know what DOES work in Japan? EMBARASSMENT.

So they instead need to get behind films like, “The Cove” in a very major way; Japan needs to see the world SEE that yearly massacre and recoil in shock.

And (though I dont’ know if it would be legal in the US) use Japanese symbolism, too, though it weirds while folks out:

When Japanese check into Honolulu hotels, ask them to sign a statement saying they oppose the killing of dolphins, whales, etc.

One hotel in Kyoto refused to honor some informal agreement to limit structure heights. So when visitors to a local shrine arrived, monks asked them to sign (a totally symbolic) document stating they either were not staying at that hotel or WOULD not in the future.

The hotel eventually caved.


12 posted on 02/19/2010 6:44:00 PM PST by TokuMei
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To: Nitro

The world is awash with whales.


13 posted on 02/19/2010 6:45:46 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Yes, yes I do. I love eating the flesh of former living beings... Martha, Betsy, and Anna all taste wonderful after cooking them up on the barbeque.

So, what’s your BEEF about that?


14 posted on 02/19/2010 6:56:19 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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The world is awash with whales.

Actually, it is not...

you are thinking of polar bears.

15 posted on 02/19/2010 7:05:32 PM PST by Nitro
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To: myknowledge

Kevin Rudd’s cap and trade efforts were an epic FAIL! So he’s on to the next groovy environmental cause


16 posted on 02/19/2010 7:07:50 PM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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Maybe take a small boat out to the whalers and throw a citizen's arrest on one of the crews....

Actually here in the Midwest we've designated the creek on the property a whale sanctuary where no whale hunting will be permitted ever. Those whalers better stay away from here.

Having done our part we return to our dolphin steaks on the grill.

17 posted on 02/19/2010 7:39:59 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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I agree with you.

Why should an industry be allowed to destroy a species to feed rich Japanese (or anybody) with a taste for the exotic? I equate commercial whaling with killing rhinos for their horns or elephants for their tusks. Industry based purely on greed.

Lots of people like deer meat. Why not industrialize deer hunting & serve venison at restaurants? Kill them to extinction.

Perhaps we will take a liking to robins, so let's eat them until they are gone. Not that we really need to eat robins, they just are cool to eat. And very profitable for the robin hunting industry.

Also, industrial fishing operations (including shrimpers) deplete fish stocks, & the gov’t responds by regulating recreational fishing to oblivion. My last fishing trip costs me about $60 per pound of fillets, & it was a good day.

I kinda like the whales, deer, robins, fish, & all the others. I even tolerate snakes, because they eat rats, though not to extinction, because they are not that stupid.

18 posted on 02/19/2010 7:46:20 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Whale steak from an intelligent creature that would rather leave me alone, no.

How do you feel about calamari?

19 posted on 02/19/2010 7:58:51 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Rule #9 Always carry a knife.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Unless you are a vegan you have no room to whine.


20 posted on 02/19/2010 8:29:38 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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