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World may not be warming, say scientists
Times Online ^ | February 14, 2010 | Jonathan Leake

Posted on 02/13/2010 3:38:39 PM PST by annalex

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“The temperature records cannot be relied on as indicators of global change,” said John Christy, professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, a former lead author on the IPCC.

“The popular data sets show a lot of warming but the apparent temperature rise was actually caused by local factors affecting the weather stations, such as land development.”

The IPCC faces similar criticisms from Ross McKitrick, professor of economics at the University of Guelph, Canada, who was invited by the panel to review its last report.

The experience turned him into a strong critic and he has since published a research paper questioning its methods.

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a weather station at Manchester airport was built when the surrounding land was mainly fields but is now surrounded by heat-generating buildings.

Terry Mills, professor of applied statistics and econometrics at Loughborough University, looked at the same data as the IPCC. He found that the warming trend it reported over the past 30 years or so was just as likely to be due to random fluctuations as to the impacts of greenhouse gases.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; climatechangedata; glaciergate; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; globalwarmingscandal; globqalwarminghoax; pachauri; pachaurigate
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To: dr_who

Yes. I don’t dispute that the owners of the devices had legitimate reasons to place them there, or that urban sprawl got to them over time. But it is disturbing and smacks of deliberate fraud that such a simple fact was allowed to introduce bias in the data.


41 posted on 02/13/2010 4:43:29 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

“World may not be warming, say scientists?”

Really? I don’t trust them. They said it was....unequivocally and now?

How do they know they are wrong? Have they developed a consensus,....yet?


42 posted on 02/13/2010 4:43:49 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: COBOL2Java

After all doesn’t he have a huge electric bill to pay.


43 posted on 02/13/2010 4:44:02 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: annalex

The human contribution of CO2 is less than 1/2 of 1%. The biggest problem with the climate change gang is that it conveinently ignores big signs that they are wrong. They behave as if they have a great vested interest in promoting warming regardless of the science.


44 posted on 02/13/2010 4:44:07 PM PST by Maelstorm (We are umbilicaled to a parasitic beast that feeds off one man so to enslave another to dependency.)
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To: lurk

But isn’t Obama still sponsoring this fraud? Aren’t carbon credits supposed to be traded on the Chicago stock exchange? Isn’t that the goal of this fraud?


45 posted on 02/13/2010 4:44:43 PM PST by abclily
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To: COBOL2Java

How can this guy be broken into the poor house?

Time for payback...


46 posted on 02/13/2010 4:45:39 PM PST by Ladysmith ("A community organizer can't bitch when communities organize." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: DBrow
Five inches since 1972? That's a hoot!

So, for example, those people in the IPCC [Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change], choose Hong Kong, which has six tide gauges, and they choose the record of one, which gives 2.3 mm per year rise of sea level. Every geologist knows that that is a subsiding area. It’s the compaction of sediment; it is the only record which you shouldn’t use. And if that figure is correct, then Holland would not be subsiding, it would be uplifting. And that is just ridiculous. Not even ignorance could be responsible for a thing like that. So tide gauges, you have to treat very, very carefully.

47 posted on 02/13/2010 4:45:49 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: Maelstorm
as if they have a great vested interest

They do have a vested interest, it is called government research grant.

48 posted on 02/13/2010 4:46:27 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

Well you are just one guy and that is your opinion.

You may want to develop an overwhelming consensus that is unassailable, despite your proof of the obvious. /s/s/s/s/ :\ LOL


49 posted on 02/13/2010 4:46:51 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: annalex

Darn tootin.


50 posted on 02/13/2010 4:47:58 PM PST by dr_who
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To: Vendome

They were lying to us then but are telling us the truth now, really.


51 posted on 02/13/2010 4:51:42 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: TigersEye

http://www.maine.gov/doc/nrimc/mgs/explore/marine/facts/sea-02.htm

Yup! In the chart above, some of the “sea level change” is from the coastline moving UP due to isostatic rebound of the land once a mile of ice had been removed.

But I expect to hear more and more about sea level change, and the need to eliminate industrial capitalism in favor of a global economic justice system of economics- especially now that the temperature hoax is being exposed.


52 posted on 02/13/2010 4:58:42 PM PST by DBrow
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To: annalex
Al Gore in Parka
53 posted on 02/13/2010 5:10:01 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: DBrow
Claim That Sea Level Is Rising Is a Total Fraud

This is a great article about sea level changes by a real expert. Only five pages too. Watch out! That next wave may be a silly millimeter higher. lol

54 posted on 02/13/2010 5:15:09 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: annalex
Gee. I wonder how they got a clue.







And if they knew it was going to snow more during Global Warming (a flat out lie btw) then why did the UK MET office predict a mild winter for the UK ?

55 posted on 02/13/2010 5:16:31 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We shall see all kinds of excuses and revisions start to come forth. The goons must try to save face. And they will tell us nothing we cannot read in the hundreds of articles written over the past few years that show there is no global warming at present.


56 posted on 02/13/2010 5:20:01 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

thanks Ernest


57 posted on 02/13/2010 5:34:41 PM PST by neverdem
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To: FrankR
You need to change that to "Captain Obvious, Obviously".

That way the "CO" on his forehead can be changed to read "CO2"

Cheers!

58 posted on 02/13/2010 5:56:40 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: reaganaut1; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; Desdemona; ...
Thanx !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

59 posted on 02/13/2010 6:03:13 PM PST by steelyourfaith (FReepers were opposed to Obama even before it was cool to be against Obama.)
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To: TigersEye
Only 31,000? /s
60 posted on 02/13/2010 6:12:13 PM PST by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... www.filipthishouse2010.com)
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