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World may not be warming, say scientists
Times Online ^ | February 14, 2010 | Jonathan Leake

Posted on 02/13/2010 3:38:39 PM PST by annalex

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“The temperature records cannot be relied on as indicators of global change,” said John Christy, professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, a former lead author on the IPCC.

“The popular data sets show a lot of warming but the apparent temperature rise was actually caused by local factors affecting the weather stations, such as land development.”

The IPCC faces similar criticisms from Ross McKitrick, professor of economics at the University of Guelph, Canada, who was invited by the panel to review its last report.

The experience turned him into a strong critic and he has since published a research paper questioning its methods.

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a weather station at Manchester airport was built when the surrounding land was mainly fields but is now surrounded by heat-generating buildings.

Terry Mills, professor of applied statistics and econometrics at Loughborough University, looked at the same data as the IPCC. He found that the warming trend it reported over the past 30 years or so was just as likely to be due to random fluctuations as to the impacts of greenhouse gases.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; climatechangedata; glaciergate; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; globalwarmingscandal; globqalwarminghoax; pachauri; pachaurigate
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To: annalex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FnpaWQJO0


21 posted on 02/13/2010 4:08:54 PM PST by HerrBlucher (Jail Al Gore and the Climate Frauds!)
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To: annalex
Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics

IOWs the Greenhouse Theory itself is based on entirely erroneous assumptions
and ignores a plethora of other mechanisms of heat transference on the planet.

22 posted on 02/13/2010 4:09:37 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
Oh, sure. in the end they pull unrelated quotes like rabbits out of a hat.

How did you like this gem: "His study, which has not been peer reviewed, is illustrated with photographs of weather stations in locations where their readings are distorted".

The fact that someone collected warming data on airliner exhaust requires a peer review?

23 posted on 02/13/2010 4:11:47 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Buck-I-Guy
Ya Think????

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24 posted on 02/13/2010 4:16:32 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: annalex

25 posted on 02/13/2010 4:18:43 PM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: annalex
John Christy, professor of atmospheric science ... [and a] professor of applied statistics and econometrics at Loughborough University ... found that the warming trend it reported over the past 30 years or so was just as likely to be due to random fluctuations as to the impacts of greenhouse gases.


Who are you going to believe: A few academics with expertise in the field, or a politician with a Nobel Prize and a financial interest in selling the global warming story?

26 posted on 02/13/2010 4:21:53 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: annalex; All

27 posted on 02/13/2010 4:23:41 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Pollster1

Guys...

width=600 is a good idea in an IMG tag.

That creep is fat enough without 1124 x 1440 magnification.


28 posted on 02/13/2010 4:24:33 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

great point. you should reply to that commenter who demanded peer review & tell him what for, to check & see if the photos are photoshopped?!!

I can’t believe that one slipped by me. It just goes to show these premises are slipping by us all the time, as long as we are taking in the left’s media (and the times is Newscorp, same as FNC)


29 posted on 02/13/2010 4:24:44 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: annalex

If the temperature sensors in thousands of weather stations are systematically wrong, then these people aren’t scientists at all. They are complete bozos who should find new careers.


30 posted on 02/13/2010 4:24:54 PM PST by dr_who
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To: annalex

The way these scientists manipulated the data they could have just as easily proven that the globe was cooling and it was caused by too much conservation of energy and therefore man has to use more fossil fuels so that the globe will warm up.

However, their whole goal is to make everyone equally poor (except the elitists). Why should the most productive, talented group of people who have taken the risk to develop and produce goods and services be unwilling to turn their profits over to those who just consume.


31 posted on 02/13/2010 4:26:17 PM PST by ODDITHER (HAT)
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To: Cobra64

I think they got confused. After all, fauxteaux synthesis is not the same thing and they have been caught at that a couple of times...


32 posted on 02/13/2010 4:26:35 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Pollster1

“failed science class”

and divinity, and english, and logic, and...

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algore: “i don’t have time to watch serials”


33 posted on 02/13/2010 4:26:37 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: dr_who
The sensors are not wrong, it's that they placed them strategically.
34 posted on 02/13/2010 4:27:32 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: TigersEye

Yeah. With that 5C-6C degree rise in temperature, I’m sure the scientists in Antarctica will be so glad they can finally have that beach party they always wanted./s


35 posted on 02/13/2010 4:35:32 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: annalex

Yes, Sharon. You are still an idiot.
36 posted on 02/13/2010 4:37:24 PM PST by ari-freedom (Chris Wallace: I can tell you, Ronald Reagan would never have quit.)
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To: annalex

They’re wrong if they aren’t telling you what the truth is. I find it difficult to believe that they are as you say all placed “strategically” when its more likely that they were all placed in spots that were chosen by their owners for whatever purpose instead of these so-called climate researchers, who apparently only just figured out that the placement of the sensors might introduce some bias into their huge database of data.


37 posted on 02/13/2010 4:37:29 PM PST by dr_who
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To: annalex

“It’s not just temperature rises that tell us the world is warming,” he said. “We also have physical changes like the fact that sea levels have risen around five inches since 1972, the Arctic icecap has declined by 40% and snow cover in the northern hemisphere has declined.”

Five inches? Prove it! As for the arctic sea ice,

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.anomaly.arctic.png

It’s just a little low. Interesting that the average arctic ice drops just a little as global temperatures fell from 2001 until now. But the drop is nowhere near 40%!

A different view:

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.area.arctic.png

The fluctuations, for you Warmists lurking here, are called “seasons”.


38 posted on 02/13/2010 4:37:30 PM PST by DBrow
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To: dr_who; annalex

There is some indication that, if sensors position were not explicitly chosen, which sensors are used in their models were “cherrypicked”.

Like Mann using ONE siberian tree for his treering data because it fit his model the best. Reasonable researchers would have RSSed or averaged many tree’s ring patterns and reported what the results were.


39 posted on 02/13/2010 4:40:30 PM PST by DBrow
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To: annalex
from the article, from a GW kool-aid drinker

....and snow cover in the northern hemisphere has declined.”

never once mentioned the Southern Hemisphere
40 posted on 02/13/2010 4:41:29 PM PST by stylin19a
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