Posted on 02/13/2010 4:27:55 AM PST by Solitar
In case you missed it ... A gun-control group has been circulating a petition demanding that Starbucks ban guns in its stores. Today, the Brady Campaign announced it has gathered more than 25,000 signatures.
"We urge Starbucks to respect the rights of the vast majority of its customers, who seek to take their families into its stores without facing the intimidating presence of openly carried guns," Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign, said in a statement.
This all started when word spread that advocates of openly carrying guns in public were meeting at Starbucks in and around California's Bay Area.
"We're just a bunch of citizens exercising their Second Amendment rights, which if you don't use them, you'll probably lose them," Open Carry advocate Gus Konstantaras told ABC News last month.
California Pizza Kitchen and Peet's Coffee and Tea have just banned guns in their restaurants. Starbucks has not. But it gave this statement to Melissa Allison at The Seattle Times:
For Starbucks, the safety of our customers and partners is our paramount concern. We have existing security protocols in place to handle situations related to safety in our stores. We will continue to adhere closely to local, state and federal laws and the counsel of law enforcement regarding this issue.
The Brady Campaign's petition reads:
I demand that Starbucks stand up for the safety of its customers and prohibit guns in your retail establishments. Guns don't belong in restaurants and coffee shops where children and families gather. You have the legal right to keep your coffee shops free from guns. The recent push among some gun owners to carry openly displayed guns, strapped to their hips, is intimidating and potentially dangerous. It puts families and law enforcement officers at risk. Reverse your unwise decision and keep our families safe.
Open Carry advocates laid out the group's case to the San Francisco Chronicle video link
[POLL results at this time]
Should Starbucks ban guns in its stores?
6.8%
Absolutely. They have no business being there.
87.8%
No. People should have the right to carry them
5.4%
Gun rights debates belong in courtrooms, not coffee shops
Hilarious bit of Orwellian MSM b.s. The headline says “thousands,” yet the article doesn’t back up that claim with any evidence. They quote the Brady “Campaign” which consists of two people and the overwhelming “no” response to their poll is the pro-constitution answer.
Although who would have known if I had a weapon on me or not, it would have been concealed? I decided if this guy was going to be that open about his anti 2nd political views do I need to help him stay in business.
Thanks for the post though. I got a good laugh and a coffee nasal cleaning at the same time.
...” respect the rights of the vast majority of its customers”
I just checked my copy of the Constitution, and I’m confused.
Just which specific ‘right’ were you talking about ?
Where I live (a large city with a lot of crime) a lot of us with CCW permits ignore those signs anyway. Their property rights do not trump my right to defend myself.
Besides, that’s why it’s a CONCEALED weapon.
Uh... someone please inform me as to exactly WHERE California allows open carry, much less concealed carry. This sounds like a straw man argument to me.
AT 0754ET:
Should Starbucks ban guns in its stores?
6.7% Absolutely. They have no business being there.
88.0% No. People should have the right to carry them
5.3% Gun rights debates belong in courtrooms, not coffee shops
Total Votes: 4051
Typical libtard logic.
Pass a law, presto magico, we’re safe.
Why not pass laws outlawing rape and murder next?
I just checked my copy of the Constitution, and I’m confused.
Just which specific ‘right’ were you talking about ?
Not my quote.
I am an avowed CHL holder in Texas and carry extensively, but business owners have the right to mandate who and what they allow in THEIR businesses. To declare otherwise is totalitarianism. If we want to boycott their businesses because of an unreasonable prohibition, that's another issue and a decision they will have to live, or die, with.
That being said, a concealed weapon should be a non-issue - no one knows but the person involved.
That's like promoting cleanliness by banning soap.
Are we to fear a violence from a latte drinker? Let them be armed; and at least ready, for that person of ill will who may walk in; and not know a latte from a ‘frappe’.
CHICAGO POLICE
SECOND CITY COP BLOG
Saturday, February 13, 2010
Range Rumor
Anyone from the Training Division care to elaborate?
* Heard that the range is going to be about 1.2 million rounds short on ammo this year.
Seems that the city decided that we could do with less.
The academy range put 1.5 million rounds of ammo in the annual budget(same as they have for the past several years).
City Hall decided to cut that down to 300,000 rounds of ammo!
Good luck qualifying in 2010!
300,000 divided by 10,000 sworn = 30 rounds per cop. Sounds like just enough to qualify everyone if we all do it on the first try!
Have they rescinded the 100 free training rounds order? And what are the 86 recruits going to fire for State qualifying? We seem to recall putting about 1,000 rounds through the gun during training - has that fallen by the wayside?
http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/
BlockBuster did this about 12 years ago. They lost memberships like crazy and dropped it. I love Starbucks. But, if they do this, I’m done.
Looks like we Freeped the Cafe-Latte’sucking hippie crowd!!
Should Starbucks ban guns in its stores?
6.6%
Absolutely. They have no business being there.
88.1%
No. People should have the right to carry them
5.3%
Gun rights debates belong in courtrooms, not coffee shops
Total Votes: 4116
-check some of the "open carry" blogs for more info--
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