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Census urges undocumented to get counted
northjersey.com ^ | Feb. 12, 2010 | ELIZABETH LLORENTE

Posted on 02/12/2010 12:25:06 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

Latino organizations and the U.S. Census Bureau plan in the coming weeks to step up their campaign to persuade Latino immigrants — especially the undocumented — to participate in the population count.

Latino leaders and census officials say the effort is unprecedented, and made all the more urgent by a campaign spearheaded by a Bergen County pastor calling on illegal immigrants to boycott the census because of the failure of Congress to reform immigration laws.

With Latinos fueling most of the population growth in New Jersey and nationwide since the 2000 census, Latino organizations in New Jersey and New York plan presentations in Bergen and Passaic counties to urge them to fill out the census forms when they arrive in the mail in March.

Census officials and political and community leaders say the stakes of an accurate count are high for all New Jerseyans because population growth here lagged behind that of many other states. The state could lose a representative in Congress and get less federal aid in the coming decade because population drives the funding of many federal programs.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2010census; aliens; census; censusfraud; fraud; illegals; immigrantlist; representation
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1 posted on 02/12/2010 12:25:06 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

all those billions to ACORN now ..


2 posted on 02/12/2010 12:26:20 PM PST by gibtx2 (keep up the good work I am out of work but post 20 a month to this out of WF Check)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The bottom line is that they are going to get the services, so it is to the best interest of the community to count them or else the community will go broke..period.


3 posted on 02/12/2010 12:27:23 PM PST by Hildy
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To: gibtx2

ACORN is not involved in the census.


4 posted on 02/12/2010 12:27:44 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If you can count them , you can arrest them . The rats want the numbers and the repugnicans want the cheap labor .


5 posted on 02/12/2010 12:29:36 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: Hildy

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/18/acorn-play-role-census/
ACORN to Play Role in 2010 Census


6 posted on 02/12/2010 12:30:32 PM PST by gibtx2 (keep up the good work I am out of work but post 20 a month to this out of WF Check)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

That would surely boost the number of Texas congresscritters.


7 posted on 02/12/2010 12:32:17 PM PST by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Please get counted...We won’t arrest you, we promise.


8 posted on 02/12/2010 12:33:22 PM PST by BallyBill (WARNING:Taking me serious could cause stress related illness.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


9 posted on 02/12/2010 12:34:39 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: Hildy

The community will grow broke regardless.


10 posted on 02/12/2010 12:35:14 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Free ThinkerNY

EVERY illegal alien should be sent home so that the MILLIONS of unemployed AMERICAN CITIZENS could locate employment.

Hoover did it.

Truman did it.

Eisenhower did it [and he even sent documented Mexicans back home].

The Illegals could be given a plastic card giving them permission to APPLY to come back into the USofA as soon as our unemployment rate falls below 3%.


11 posted on 02/12/2010 12:44:17 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (He has refused his Assent to Laws. He has erected a multitude of New Offices. Who? Obama!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Illegal aliens have no right to representation in this nation.

As a human right they have the right to be treated humanely as they are deported.

They are not "illegal citizens" as some idiots have described them, nor has anyone victimized them by not treating them as citizens.

We Americans should not be compelled to be ruled by people who "represent them", for this is tyranny and contrary to the entire concept of our nation. We cannot be forced to be governed by those who we do not consent to be governed by.

This plan is destabilizing to the very existence of the United States.

12 posted on 02/12/2010 1:17:09 PM PST by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe! Now hand over your property....)
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To: Regulator
Illegal aliens have no right to representation in this nation.

They have no right to vote, but the Constitution very explicitly requires that they be counted for purposes of apportioning the House of Representatives:

Fourteenth Amendment, Section 2: " Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State..."

13 posted on 02/12/2010 1:24:23 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Regulator

This plan is destabilizing to the very existence of the United States.

The Constitution is therefore destabilizing.


14 posted on 02/12/2010 1:29:27 PM PST by MrRobertPlant2009
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"Latino organizations and the U.S. Census Bureau plan in the coming weeks to step up their campaign to persuade Latino immigrants — especially the undocumented —"

Yeah; we can't leave out those criminal-trespassing-interlopers from the count or they may not recieve all the FREEBIES they could otherwise get from MORE OF THEM standing in line......

15 posted on 02/12/2010 2:40:21 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"Latino organizations and the U.S. Census Bureau plan in the coming weeks to step up their campaign to persuade Latino immigrants — especially the undocumented —"

Yeah; we can't leave out those criminal-trespassing-interlopers from the count or they may not recieve all the FREEBIES they could otherwise get from MORE OF THEM standing in line......

16 posted on 02/12/2010 2:44:11 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: fatnotlazy

That is true..it will just take a bit longer.


17 posted on 02/12/2010 5:43:28 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Lurking Libertarian
If you are going to quote a sentence, quote the whole thing.
" Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed."

Aliens residing in the US were not supposed to be counted.
18 posted on 02/12/2010 7:10:04 PM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
You're leaving out the predecessor sentence:

Section 2 of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution provides, “Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed.” Section 1 of the same Amendment provides, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.” The order of these two Sections implies that the persons upon whom apportionment is to be made are persons born or naturalized in the United States.

No one in 1868 envisioned a mass invasion of foreign nationals, as can be found by simply reading Howard's many Senate comments. The intent was to give Black people rights under the Constitution that could not be nullified by State laws. First, they were to be made citizens, and second, they were to be guaranteed citizen's rights, nullifying Dred Scott. Of course, one of those rights is the right to equal representation - not 3/5ths. Thus the language of the 14th.

19 posted on 02/12/2010 7:20:46 PM PST by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe! Now hand over your property....)
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To: MrRobertPlant2009
The Constitution is therefore destabilizing

It certainly was in 1861, when the 3/5ths rule was one of things that led the North to war - why should the Slave Power have more representation than they deserved by counting people they had enslaved?

It's no accident that the 14th was written to get rid of that. But misinterpretation by scoundrels intent on aggregating illegitimate power to themselves is still a risk with the amended Constitution if we let them take advantage of it.

20 posted on 02/12/2010 7:25:29 PM PST by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe! Now hand over your property....)
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