Posted on 02/06/2010 10:45:49 PM PST by smoothsailing
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I see my face, framed within
Pop's black-framed glasses
And know he's laughing too.
I was intrigued by old Frank, with his books and whiskey breath and the hint of hard-earned knowledge behind the hooded eyes. The visits to his house always left me feeling vaguely uncomfortable, though, as if I were witnessing some complicated, unspoken transaction between the two men, a transaction I couldn't fully understand. The same thing I felt whenever Gramps took me downtown to one of his favorite bars, in Honolulu's red-light district.
Well given that the wedding date with her first husband was only about 5 months before "their" child was born, I'd say that is a pretty good clue. Assuming BHO Sr was the father of course, and she was the mother.
most definitely extremely “interesting” for grandfather/grandson excursions in that era (or ever)..... unless you’re growing up in an apartment above the bar, what grandfather brings his 11 or 12 y.o. grandson to a seedy bar in the “red light district”??? This would seem to be nearly inexplicable behavior, even in such a relatively eccentric family......
I think it’s completely unimaginable in all of the families I’ve ever known in my 50 years on planet earth.... especially considering that Obama’s “grandparents” were relatively middle class..... without regard to race, I simply can’t think of anyone in my life’s circles who would bring an 11-12 y.o. to a seedy bar in such a questionable part of town.... whether it was a “white” or “black” or “Asian” or any other kind of bar is immaterial to the point -— why on earth is grandpa bringing a child to such a place, over and over again??? very bizarre.....
It actually appears that Stanley Ann was the one who "left", either before or immediately after the birth. Sr. stayed in Hawaii until the spring/early summer of '62, while Ann went off to Seattle to attend, albeit part time, the University of Washington. She did not return to Hawaii until BHO Sr. had left. That's public record. She shows up in a city directory, and her transcript from the UofW, as well as a letter from the U of H indicating her dates of attendance and degrees granted.
Can't blame her for leaving the drunk, my paternal grandmother did much the same, although Idon't know the exact reasons.
Diversity training.
who spends at least $2.3 million to quash eligibility lawsuits when it should be the simplest thing in the world (if indeed eligible) to produce the documentary proof of eligibility?????
Even if it’s all Soros money provided endlessly, there would have been much better uses for that kind of money in the campaign IF establishing eligibility were not a problem. No matter what his backing, Obama did not start out at the beginning of 2007 with any assurance of raising the vast sums his campaign did end up “receiving” nor did he have any assurance of the nomination when Hillary and then even John Edwards seemed ahead of the almost unknown Obama at the start.....
Clearly Obama thought he had some compelling reason(s) for keeping his documents hidden and paying millions (and he had no way of knowing from the start how many millions it might add up to)..... definitely something highly suspect.
Whether it has to do with actual eligibility or more with embarrasing fact(s) about parentage etc., it’s just so strange that the most basic facts about Obama and his family are really not established.
I see nothing 'asian' about that woman.
And yes, there may be a marriage record for Obama Senior, and a marriage record for Stanley Ann Dunham.
But have you allowed for the possibility that the two of them were NOT ON THE SAME DATE?
I never said that they didn't work hard (effective is another issue). They are many harding working people with "good intentions" that AREN'T effective because they have too many irons in the fire. I truly believe birthers fit into that category. I wish you the best of luck and hope you catch the big fish that you're after (seriously, I'm not worried about the civil unrest that WILL happen if Obama is "dethroned" due to this "questionable" tactic...are you? I LOVE a good ole fashioned race riot).
By the way, define a "troll".
“most definitely extremely interesting for grandfather/grandson excursions in that era (or ever)..... unless youre growing up in an apartment above the bar, what grandfather brings his 11 or 12 y.o. grandson to a seedy bar in the red light district??? This would seem to be nearly inexplicable behavior, even in such a relatively eccentric family......
I think its completely unimaginable in all of the families Ive ever known in my 50 years on planet earth.... especially considering that Obamas grandparents were relatively middle class..... without regard to race, I simply cant think of anyone in my lifes circles who would bring an 11-12 y.o. to a seedy bar in such a questionable part of town.... whether it was a white or black or Asian or any other kind of bar is immaterial to the point - why on earth is grandpa bringing a child to such a place, over and over again??? very bizarre.....”
thanks for the response, it certainly is odd behavior,
Who the hell is Obama?
Obama’s Gpaw/father at age 26?
http://www.armytimes.com/xml/news/2009/06/ap_obama_grandfather_060609/060609_obama_grandfather_dday_400.JPG
OMG,
Look at these quotes,
Hed been thrown out of his high school in El Dorado, Kan., for punching the principal in the nose. For three years hed lived off odd jobs, hopping rail cars to Chicago, then California, then back again, dabbling in moonshine, cards and women, Obama wrote in his autobiography, Dreams from My Father.
then this,
Stanley, who called his grandson Bar, died in 1992 at age 73. His ashes are inurned at the National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific, commonly known as Punchbowl.
Called him BAR?
But then this one, who does Obama look like?
But Ralph Dunham is reminded of his brother every time Obamas face appears on TV or in the paper.
You know, Ralph says, he looks exactly like Stanley. He looks exactly like my brother, only hes dark.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/06/ap_obama_grandfather_060609/
You're mad at the birther because they aren't focused exclusively on your pet issues. Wow!
Now I also spent summers in Iowa and there it was still very shameful for a girl to become pregnant while not married. They often went off to live with an aunt in Chicago or some other big city. People do odd stuff.
Jesus, Bill Clinton, and Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. all share a key point.
That is, that there is much discussion, learned and otherwise, on the exact nature of their paternity.
This has enabled Billy and Barack to subliminally compare their mothers to The Blessèd Mother and attempt to claim a place in The Trinity. All that is missing is St. Joseph and any record of good deeds.
In Barack's case, the compliant Hawaiian Authorities may be attempting to fill that gap, and the records will miraculously appear when they are forced to obey their own laws and release documentation.
By that time, BHO, Jr. will be a grandfather working as a Community Organizer in the slums of Nairobi
THIS is the original article. It is from AP.
Fred, note the spelling of his name.
Sunday, June 27, 2004
Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate
Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.
The allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to implode in four short days have given Obama a clear lead as Republicans struggled to fetch an alternative.
Ryans campaign began to crumble on Monday following the release of embarrassing records from his divorce. In the records, his ex-wife, Boston Public actress Jeri Ryan, said her former husband took her to kinky sex clubs in Paris, New York and New Orleans.
Barrack Obama
“Its clear to me that a vigorous debate on the issues most likely could not take place if I remain in the race,” Ryan, 44, said in a statement. “What would take place, rather, is a brutal, scorched-earth campaign the kind of campaign that has turned off so many voters, the kind of politics I refuse to play.”
Although Ryan disputed the allegations, saying he and his wife went to one avant-garde club in Paris and left because they felt uncomfortable, lashed out at the media and said it was “truly outrageous” that the Chicago Tribune got a judge to unseal the records.
The Republican choice will become an instant underdog in the campaign for the seat of retiring Republican Senator Peter Fitzgerald, since Obama held a wide lead even before the scandal broke.
“I feel for him actually,” Obama told a Chicago TV station. “What hes gone through over the last three days I think is something you wouldnt wish on anybody.”
The Republican state committee must now choose a replacement for Ryan, who had won in the primaries against seven contenders. Its task is complicated by the fact that Obama holds a comfortable lead in the polls and is widely regarded as a rising Democratic star.
The chairwoman of the Illinois Republican Party, Judy Topinka, said at a news conference, after Ryan withdrew, that Republicans would probably take several weeks to settle on a new candidate.
“Obviously, this is a bad week for our party and our state,” she said.
As recently as Thursday, spokesmen for the Ryan campaign still insisted that Ryan would remain in the race. Ryan had defended himself saying, “Theres no breaking of any laws. Theres no breaking of any marriage laws. Theres no breaking of the Ten Commandments anywhere.”
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