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Glaciergate? IPCC Claims That Himalayan Glaciers Will Disappear By 2035 Are Melting Away
The American Interest ^ | Jan 16, 2010 | Walter Mead

Posted on 02/06/2010 1:58:23 PM PST by Titus-Maximus

One of the most alarming predictions of the IPCC, the scientific panel that is considered the world’s most authoritative source of information on global warming, turns out to be a total fraud, according to this story in The London Times. The prediction that the Himalayan glaciers, the prime source of water for hundreds of millions of people in South Asia, would disappear by 2035 have been a keystone in the case for urgent action on climate change.

This is much, much worse than hungry polar bears; three nuclear weapons states depend on Himalayan runoff for vital water supplies: India, Pakistan and China.

Environmental activists have made this prediction a centerpiece of the campaign for urgent action and with the full authority of the IPCC behind it, the prediction has received massive publicity; yet it now appears that this dramatic and highly publicized prediction never had any scientific backing.

Here’s what The London Times has to say:

A WARNING that climate change will melt most of the Himalayan glaciers by 2035 is likely to be retracted after a series of scientific blunders by the United Nations body that issued it.

Two years ago the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) issued a benchmark report that was claimed to incorporate the latest and most detailed research into the impact of global warming. A central claim was the world’s glaciers were melting so fast that those in the Himalayas could vanish by 2035.

In the past few days the scientists behind the warning have admitted that it was based on a news story in the New Scientist, a popular science journal, published eight years before the IPCC’s 2007 report.

It has also emerged that the New Scientist report was itself based on a short telephone interview with Syed Hasnain, a little-known Indian scientist then based at Jawaharlal Nehru University in Delhi.

The IPCC, in what will surely be remembered as one of the most idiotic and irresponsible predictions ever made, assessed the probability of a glacial meltdown by 2035 as “very high” — a probability of over 90%.

As Emily Litella, Gilda Radner’s ditzy television commentator from the earliest days of Saturday Night Live would say, “Never mind.”

Again, read the whole thing here. If the London Times report is correct, this is some ways bigger than ‘Climategate.’ If evidence this slender was sufficient to convince the IPCC that this threat was real, it’s clear that the panel is more like Chicken Little than a serious source of scientific information. The lack of judgment is staggering; the careless disregard for the truth, the intellectual incompetence and the cavalier disregard for basic fact checking before making the wildest predictions of horrifically impending catastrophe are quite simply breathtaking. The IPCC chairman, meanwhile, with an arrogant ineptitude that would be comic if the subject weren’t so important, has dismissed critics of the prediction as practitioners of “voodoo science.”

The scientific case for global warming is in no way affected by this news and serious scientists have real concerns that the Himalayan glaciers are shrinking, albeit at a much, much slower rate than the IPCC claims. But if the Times story holds up, the reputation of the IPCC and its leadership may never and perhaps should never recover from a gross and careless error of this kind. Heads should roll.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatgate
Best Quote: "If the London Times report is correct, this is some ways bigger than ‘Climategate.’ If evidence this slender was sufficient to convince the IPCC that this threat was real, it’s clear that the panel is more like Chicken Little than a serious source of scientific information. The lack of judgment is staggering; the careless disregard for the truth, the intellectual incompetence and the cavalier disregard for basic fact checking before making the wildest predictions of horrifically impending catastrophe are quite simply breathtaking."
1 posted on 02/06/2010 1:58:23 PM PST by Titus-Maximus
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To: Titus-Maximus
The scientific case for global warming is in no way affected by this news and serious scientists have real concerns that the Himalayan glaciers are shrinking...
Horse manure.
2 posted on 02/06/2010 2:02:42 PM PST by Bob
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To: Titus-Maximus
You need more authoritative ammunition?
Feast your eyes on this...

Devastating Rising Sea Level Fraud Rebuttal --- by a real Science Expert

3 posted on 02/06/2010 2:07:08 PM PST by Publius6961 (He is not America; he is an employee seemingly unable to rise to minimal expectations.)
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To: Titus-Maximus
I continue to believe that anyone who considers himself a "real scientist" ought to be climbing on a rooftop and shouting to the world that Global Warming is huge con game.

There have been a few, but on the whole, I think serious scientists have been reluctant to say that some of modern science isn't science at all -- it's political theater.

And real scientists should be ashamed of it. In a very loud voice.

4 posted on 02/06/2010 2:09:13 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (I was born in America, but now I live in Declinistan.)
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To: Titus-Maximus

Drudge headlines:

Historic snowstorm rages on...
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Up to 30 inches in parts of Philadelphia...
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5 posted on 02/06/2010 2:10:46 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (2010 HOUSE RACES! Help everyone get the goods on their House Rats. See my profile.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

BIGGEST DC SNOW SINCE 1922 AND IT’S STILL COMING DOWN
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6 posted on 02/06/2010 2:11:24 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (2010 HOUSE RACES! Help everyone get the goods on their House Rats. See my profile.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Netherlands adds to UN climate report controversy; Half the country below sea level?
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7 posted on 02/06/2010 2:11:50 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (2010 HOUSE RACES! Help everyone get the goods on their House Rats. See my profile.)
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To: Titus-Maximus

Is this the same IPCC that just got caught getting their info from a student thesis and a magazine article on mountain climbers opinions of what is happening based on what it looks like?


8 posted on 02/06/2010 2:26:47 PM PST by proudtobeanamerican1 (Prayers Up! It's our last defense!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

There’s too much money in it.

Now maybe we will see money there to refute it! Don’t hold your breathe.

Middle East money into the green funds and Enviro groups - to keep America from drilling and thereby lowering the price of oil and gas through our new supply. The Enviro-whackos working against America.

Most renewable investments do not work without government subsidies - so these investments are for other purposes.


9 posted on 02/06/2010 2:27:47 PM PST by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
The entire IPCC den of frauds and thieves should be decorating lightpoles somewhere soon.

I vote for Somalia... Or, in a pique of irony, perhaps Ulan Bator...

Just saying...

10 posted on 02/06/2010 2:27:53 PM PST by Publius6961 (He is not America; he is an employee seemingly unable to rise to minimal expectations.)
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To: Titus-Maximus

Is this the same IPCC that just got caught getting their info from a student thesis and a magazine article on mountain climbers opinions of what is happening based on what it looks like?


11 posted on 02/06/2010 2:29:44 PM PST by proudtobeanamerican1 (Prayers Up! It's our last defense!)
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To: Bob

Glaciers are being impacted by black carbon from UNREGULATED INDIAN and probably Chinese industries and trucks. Irony is that Western REGULATED industry will be crushed to give money to 3rd world countries to stock their hareems while China & India would rock along with industries polluting the way the industry polluted in the West for 100 years which will continue to cause glaciers to melt.


12 posted on 02/06/2010 2:29:50 PM PST by Bhoy
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To: Publius6961

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“Himalayan glaciers would melt by 2035 was lifted from a 1999 magazine article.”

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13 posted on 02/06/2010 2:38:20 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (2010 HOUSE RACES! Help everyone get the goods on their House Rats. See my profile.)
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To: Titus-Maximus; meyer; Horusra; Para-Ord.45; rdl6989; mmanager; FreedomPoster; carolinablonde; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

14 posted on 02/06/2010 3:22:58 PM PST by steelyourfaith (FReepers were opposed to Obama even before it was cool to be against Obama.)
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