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1 posted on 02/01/2010 9:54:11 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
The Left’s overreach invites the Founders’ return

The Zombie menace is everywhere.

2 posted on 02/01/2010 9:56:33 AM PST by Tax-chick (Thou hast well drunken, man - who's the fool now?)
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To: bamahead; Travis McGee

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4 posted on 02/01/2010 10:11:32 AM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: neverdem
Nice words, but it's all too little too late. Our liberties are stone cold dead in this country, so dead that nobody will even lift a finger to try to restore them -- and with good reason, because the time for action passed a long, long time ago and nobody did a thing.

America -- a great idea, didn't last.

5 posted on 02/01/2010 10:11:50 AM PST by Clint Williams (America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: neverdem
The Americanized version of the modern state was born in the early 20th century. American “progressives,” under the spell of German thinkers, decided that advances in science and history had opened the possibility of a new, more efficient form of democratic government, which they called the “administrative state.” Thus began the most revolutionary change of the last hundred years: the massive shift of power from institutions of constitutional government to a labyrinthine network of unelected, unaccountable experts who would rule in the name of the people.

It didn't start in the 20th century - it started with the passage of the 14th Amendment, and the subsequent Supreme Court rulings which refused to throw it out for contradiction and vagueness, but rather used it to invoke the presumption of administrative jurisdiction. Even the usefulness of the expansion of the application of the Commerce Clause is based on this 14A presumptive mechanism.

7 posted on 02/01/2010 10:16:30 AM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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9 posted on 02/01/2010 10:18:14 AM PST by kara2008
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To: neverdem
The Americanized version of the modern state was born in the early 20th century. American “progressives,” under the spell of German thinkers, decided that advances in science and history had opened the possibility of a new, more efficient form of democratic government, which they called the “administrative state.”

Very interesting article, and one of the best explanations I have seen of the "progressive" mentality and its impact on institutions. Obviously, it is very easy for progressivism to take that next step and morph into communism or fascism, the total, overtly state-controlled world; but even in its vision of the administrative state model, it is profoundly anti-American (in the sense of the America that the Founders envisioned).

10 posted on 02/01/2010 10:18:58 AM PST by livius
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We’re witnessing huge increases in government spending, regulations, and programs. And as the national government becomes more centralized and bureaucratic, it will also become less democratic, and more despotic, than ever...



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15 posted on 02/01/2010 10:56:04 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: neverdem

I get tired of these articles that lump Teddy Roosevelt in with all of these early 20th century progressives. The only thing this article attributes to TR is the passage of the food and drug act.

This act gave powers to an already existing government agency (FDA) to inspect food processing plants to ensure that they were not throwing garbage into things and calling it sausage, or beef. That when they said something was beef, it was actually beef. The act also required the labels that are put on food packages. In other words, a truth in advertising. I think that act protects consumers against unscrupulous businessmen. Perhaps some people out there think that truth in advertising was a bad idea. I don’t. People were dying from garbage that companies were putting in food packaging.

This BS about Teddy Roosevelt supporting nationalized healthcare comes from the platform of the Progressive party which he ran for as President in 1912. Let’s remember, Teddy wanted to be President again and thought he got a raw deal in the Republican primary (which he did). He got more votes than Taft in the primarys that were held but through parlimentary manuevering at the convention, Taft got the nod. Mostly because Republican party bosses disliked Teddy. Teddy went to a party that would nominate him. For proof of this, all of this reporting about Teddy Roosevelt campaigning on National Health care, has anyone seen one quote from Teddy about it? I haven’t and I don’t think there is one. If it was so important to him, wouldn’t we have at least one quote from a campaign stump speech about nationalized health care?

Here’s the plank from the Progressive party platform: “The protection of home life against the hazards of sickness, irregular employment and old age through the adoption of a system of social insurance adapted to American use.” This isn’t exactly a call to universal health care.

Let me give you something Teddy did actually say:

“The first requisite of a good citizen in this republic of ours is that he shall be able and willing to pull his own weight.”

Doesn’t sound like someone who liked lazy people on the dole to me.

“Every immigrant who comes here should be required within five years to learn English or leave the country.”

Not a big fan of illegal immigration either I imagine...

This is just one more way that the left is trying to re-write history about a great American.


19 posted on 02/01/2010 12:01:15 PM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: neverdem

B4L8r


20 posted on 02/01/2010 12:02:42 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: neverdem

“But a funny thing happened on the way to the next revolution.”

A good article. Renewal of teaching the basics of the Founding is way overdue, neglected as it has been at least during this curmudgeon’s memory. It will require tremendous effort just to recover lost ground to the time of the ‘cold war’, much less the beginning of the slide. But it has been a startling reawakening this last year as witness the impotence of a filibuster proof congress and socialist administration to force legislation upon an unsupportive and aroused electorate. Keep it up.


22 posted on 02/01/2010 12:20:49 PM PST by corvus
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To: neverdem

Bookmarked 4 later.


23 posted on 02/01/2010 1:46:47 PM PST by Canedawg (Our government has become a travesty.)
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To: neverdem

Big BUMP...


24 posted on 02/01/2010 2:34:11 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub. III OK)
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To: neverdem
Nice article, but perhaps a little bit naive. It is true that there are significant numbers of true believers in the progressive movement. However, the other force behind the growth of government has no such illusions as to social equality.

If you're an auto manufacturer, you want to sell more cars, right? What if you are a lender ie banker? Well, you want to sell more loans (lend money). And as it turns out, the biggest customers of all are the respective nation-states.

What better way to fatten your wallet than to tap into the one entity that carries the force of law to confiscate private property in order to satisfy its debts to you, the banker? Answer: there isn't one; it's the best there is if you're a banker.

So here we have a marriage made in hell. Dewy eyed 'progressives' weeping over the oppressed, including women, child, minorities, the poor and whoever else. And then we have coldly calculating bankers who clearly understand the financing requirements the states needed to impose via taxes, regulations and other means to collect wealth from private parties to pay for all this "progress".

I also disagree with the author's primary thesis that Hussein over-reached & that public sentiment has now turned against him. Barry would have been successful if it weren't for the fact that the credit-leverage system has reached its terminal state of collapse. It's been expanding at an unsustainable rate for some time now, but now the bill is coming due.

We will get a restoration of the original Republic not through some enlightened return of voter common sense, but through the imposition of the harshest task master of all: economic collapse. Like the USSR, the time is coming when there won't be any there, there.

27 posted on 02/01/2010 3:30:33 PM PST by semantic
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To: neverdem

btt


30 posted on 02/02/2010 5:00:28 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: neverdem

There is no reason for optimism, this Republic will fall

The Founders were adamant about not granting the franchise to morons, women, those under 21, and non tax payers.

The politicians failed to heed their warning, and all of those groups have now been enfranchised via Constitutional amendment and are the reason this Republic cannot possibly endure.

The enemies of Freedom are all around us, the 50 % of Americans that continue vote Democrat.

A populace that likes bright shiny objects, that swings wildly between left and right but the damage inflicted when the nation lurches left is never repaired, an electorate that gave the maniac algore the popular vote in 2000, elected Bill Clinton twice, and now puts a communist crypto-muslim in the White House is a populace and nation that has only darkness and despair on the horizon.

This Republic will fall, as the non taxpayers will continue to support those politicians who will redistribute money in exchange for votes.

Lets hope that in the new one that rises from its ashes, only taxpayers and veterans are entrusted to have a say on who may govern.


36 posted on 02/03/2010 2:56:17 AM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: neverdem

bump for later read


38 posted on 02/03/2010 3:10:57 AM PST by Abundy
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To: neverdem

We have the responsibility of holding our leaders accountable fortheir actions and decisions. You see, in America, the buck stops here. That is,in our system of government, we cannot place the blame of poor leadership on anyone else. We are given the freedom to choose our leaders and the obligation to hold them accountable. - Now more than ever before the people are responsible for the characterof their Congress. If that body be ignorant, reckless, and corrupt, it is because the people tolerate ignorance, recklessness, and corruption. If it be intelligent, brave, and pure, it is because the people demand these high qualities to represent them in the national legislature. If the next centennial does not find us a great nation, it w ill be because those who represent the enterprise, the culture, and the morality of the nation do not aid in controlling the political forums. (Garfield,A Century of Congress,1877)


41 posted on 02/03/2010 5:26:52 AM PST by anglian
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If conservatives are, therefore, to accomplish anything, they first must get straight what it is they want to conserve. This means going with the founders, not with Theodore Roosevelt. Why Progressivism is Not, and Never Was, a Source of Conservative Values http://www.claremont.org/publications/pubid.439/pub_detail.asp


43 posted on 02/03/2010 6:26:04 AM PST by anglian
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