Posted on 01/31/2010 5:41:25 AM PST by rellimpank
Charlie Mitchener, the Las Vegas business owner who was handcuffed and disarmed after presenting a concealed weapons permit along with his driver's license to a police officer responding to a burglary call at his place of business Jan. 3, has provided me with his Jan. 19 follow-up letter to Metro.
Mitchener says he decided to write police about his ordeal, detailed in this space on Jan. 10, lest his "silence may put someone else at risk."
"Shortly before 5 a.m. Jan. 3, the alarms in my office sounded and notified TSI, our security provider, that a break-in had occurred," Mitchener writes. "They ... dispatched a security guard.
"My wife, Peggy, and I arrived at the office about 5:15 a.m.; the security officer had arrived just before us. ... The security officer informed us that he had called Metro and they told him not to enter the building. ...
"The security officer said, 'I don't want to tell you what to do, but I'm familiar with situations where the bad guys will come busting out and your vehicle may provide them cover, so I suggest you move it away from the building.' "
(Excerpt) Read more at lvrj.com ...
After you have sobered up and read thru this thread you are going to be very embarrassed.
Just curious...
WHERE THE HELL DID THAT COME FROM??????
I bet you think all women who reject you are lesbians, huh?
Take a 5 lane road with next to no traffic on it at 5:30 in the morning. Those out are on their way to work. Put a cop out there to sit in a speed trap. No I did not get pulled over, I just pay taxes for him to sit there. I think it would be just grand if the cop was laid off and gone from the payroll. Just dandy. Cops do not write tickets to each other and their wives and girlfriends, professional courtesy they call it. So they must be dis-courteous to those they nab? I have nothing against cops who solve crimes and help people. Those in speed traps I do not like.
I think you’re being diverted. Rexgross can’t possibly be dim enough to believe his own posts. I dare say he’s just spamming the thread, because he doesn’t want any actual discussion on it. For any sensible comments, ignore him.
Another person who dances with joy every time a police officer dies and would throw a 3 year old in front of the gang member trying to kill him.,
Put down the crackpipe
Oh and enjoy your stay on freerepublic
One night the alarm went off and I grabbed my gun and the dog and I headed down stairs. There was a door that shut off the upstairs from the downstairs and because I lived in the country, I also had a siren that cycled every minute for a minute and then recycled...Everytime the siren recycled, it cut off the phone call from the ADT offices. I knew how to shut off the alarm, but didn't know that the battery back up needed to also be shut off and didn't know how to do that...
They sent the police and I saw someone coming up my driveway in a sheriff's uniform and went onto my enclosed porch. I had my dog at my side and my gun behind my back. I asked the sheriff when he introduced himself. "Where is your car"..He told me that on alarms they park there car away from the house and his partner was now going around the house checking all windows...
I told him to wait outside a minute and I would put my dog away...Mona was shut up in the back room and I put my gun in plain site on a desk about 10 feet from the dining room table, so that the deputy could see it...He sat down at the dining room table and I was still trying to talk (every minute the phone rang from ADT) to find out how to shut off the battery back up. It was in a back closet...
Got the back up shut off, talked with police man and his partner knocked on the door to come in and said all the windows were intact...(this was a 2 story 100 year old farmhouse with LOTs of windows.) They both knew I had a gun in plain site and never even questioned me about it...I informed them that my husband has recently passed away and that was why I had the alarm system put in...
These too guys were great, professional, and polite...I was smart enough even 20 years ago to put my dog away as she was not stranger friendly. I put the gun in plain site and was thankful they never questioned my about it as it was unregistered...inherited it when my father passed away...a little snub nose colt cobra. I have no complains about my encounter with the sheriffs office....but when I lived in Sterling Heights,(suburb outside of Detroit) some of those cops were just plain nuts...
Had 4 teen age boys and our last name was known, but so was the last name of probably ever teen male in the city...One of those boys is a freeper and will remain nameless. :O)
Man up and kick his ass.
Why do you need to call anyone? What will that accomplish?
"Please stop attacking me, Mr. Gang Banger, so that I can call the
Po-Po to protect me. They should be here in thirty minutes or so."
Exactly! I just went back to his "In Forum" posts. Topic was the bombing of Japan. "When The Sun Turned Black" on FR Dec 7th 2009.
Identical posts, except substitute "American soldiers" for "police officers".... As in "What dance do you do when an American soldier dies?"
Actual quote... I swear.
What is the matter with you? That entire post is the ranting of a lunatic. For the love of God, man, seek help. And get the hell off FR.
Anyway. 20-20 hindsight but I think given the situation here would have been a better response:
Officer to Storeowner:
Thank you sir for your ID and CCW. Are you armed?
I see. Given that I am not sure what we are dealing with here, could I ask you to put your gun in your car? I have called for back-up and I think we can take it from here.
Officer to Rent-a-cop:
I see that you are armed. Given that I am not sure what we are dealing with here, could I ask you to put your gun in your car? I have called for back-up and I think we can take it from here.
Actually, my experience is that rent-a-cops are police wantabes and are more dangerous than JQ Public in situations like this. I worked at a private swim club and somebody on the board got the bright idea that it would be good to have armed security pass through once a day. When the guy showed up he was such a dork that all the kids taunted him unmercifully. The whole thing was over when he pulled his gun on one of the kids. YIKES!
You have the potential to vote democrat
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Why don’t the police do their job and kill the gang bangers instead of waiting to give me a ticket for driving through a mud puddle on a Sunday between the hours of 10:23 and 2:40?
You are really angry, aren’t you? I guess I should like the police...but they only help after crazy people like you have already gone off the hinge.
I don't know why, but I find that even MORE disturbing.
LOL!
“Nobody with an ounce of common decency hates the police.”
Regardless of the cause, police have utterly abandoned the idea of “protect and serve” which is an official motto of many departments. Rather, they have degenerated into an “us vs. them” mentality where the “us” is the uniformed police officer and the “them” are the public (honest and guilty alike).
If I am going to be a part of the “them,” then I am going to protect myself from the police. They have forfeited their right to cooperation from a citizenry that they abuse.
The cooperation I have for the police stops at pointing out a fleeing felon or reporting a crime in progress. I have plenty of insurance and a gun in my pocket. Anything else I need can be had from the police at a nice safe distance (like over the phone or though my lawyer) where I do not become a victim of their poor judgment.
Basically, the LVPD admits to not, or poorly, or sending out failed ‘trained’ officers.
One or the others.
That is what happens in organizations as each year they become more rule bound, procedurally bound. By the way, real ‘Professionals’ act more on their own cognizance. Clerk type organizations act by procedure.
This of course, overtime, chases away independent thinkers, as mentally they find such bureaucratic organizations dull, boring, literally mindless.
It then attracts those not able, or comfortable with thinking and acting on their own.
Over time, the rigid, code bound rise into positions of higher code/rule/regulation/procedure authority and the organization is now fully one of rigidity, rules, infractions and such.
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