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US okays howitzers worth $647 million for India
The Times of India ^ | 27 January 2010 | The Times of India

Posted on 01/27/2010 2:31:17 PM PST by James C. Bennett

WASHINGTON: Asserting that its sale to India will "improve interoperability with US Soldiers and Marines," the US defense agency tasked with the transfer of military hardware and promoting military-to-military ties has notified the US Congress of the Obama administration's intention to sell 145 M777 Howitzers to India in a deal worth $ 647 million.

The mandatory notification follows a request from India for the light-weight towed Howitzer with Laser Inertial Artillery Pointing Systems (LINAPS), the first major artillery purchase by New Delhi after the star-crossed Bofors deal going back to the 1980s.

The $647 million deal will include warranty, spare and repair parts, support and test equipment, publications and technical documentation, maintenance, personnel training and training equipment, US government and contractor representatives' technical assistance, engineering and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistics support, the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency said in its January 22 notification.

"This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to strengthen the US-India strategic relationship and to improve the security of an important partner which continues to be an important force for political stability, peace, and economic progress in South Asia," DSCA said.

The Agency said the howitzers will assist the Indian Army to develop and enhance standardization and surprisingly asserted it will also "improve interoperability with US Soldiers and Marines who use the M777 as their primary means of indirect fire." India will have no difficulty absorbing these weapons into its armed forces, it added.

In its standard caveat, the Agency also assured the Congress that the "proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region," and "there will be no adverse impact on US defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale."

The M777 purchase, seen in some quarters as a political decision favoring US, was not without the usual controversy that has come to dog almost every major defense acquisition in India.

The gun trailed the front-runner, the Pegasus lightweight howitzer developed jointly by the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF), Defence Science and Technology Agency (DSTA) and Singapore Technology Kinetics, for several months, But Pegasus was knocked out of the race following reports of corruption and bribery that necessitated a CBI investigation.

While that inquiry is continuing, the government decided to go in for the US artillery given the Army's urgent requirement.

The M777 howitzer was originally developed by the British Vickers group, but is now produced by BAE Systems Land Systems in the US. It has largely replaced the M198 howitzer 155mm towed howitzers in the US Marine Corps and US Army and has seen action since March 2008 in Afghanistan. US allies Canada and Australia are the only two countries the US has sold the guns to.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: howitzer; india; marines; us

1 posted on 01/27/2010 2:31:19 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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US okays howitzers worth $647 million for India

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Getting mental image of how many 7-11’s $647 million in howitzers will blow up.


2 posted on 01/27/2010 2:33:18 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Free Republic. The BEST place anywhere to PIMP YOUR BLOG)
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To: James C. Bennett
Nod to US gun purchase minus bids

The Telegraph, India.

File picture of a Bofors gun

New Delhi, Jan. 1: The government has authorised an outright purchase of 145 ultra-light howitzers from the US, a highly-placed defence ministry source said today.

The ultra-light howitzers are for the mountain artillery divisions of the Indian Army to be used in high-altitude frontiers opposite Pakistan and China. They can be transported slung from some helicopters.

The defence acquisitions committee has decided to take the foreign military sales route. Foreign military sales is a US programme of government-to-government sales of military hardware bypassing a lengthy system of competitive bidding. But bidders who lose out to foreign military sales orders allege that the system lacks transparency.

“We will also look at other options,” defence secretary Pradeep Kumar said.

The Indian Air Force has taken the foreign military sales route to contract six Lockheed Martin-made Hercules C130J air lifters and the army did the same to buy artillery fire-finding radars.

Two brands of ultra-light howitzers were initially in contention for the Indian Army’s estimated $2.5-billion artillery modernisation programme — ST Kinetics’ Pegasus and BAE Land Systems’ M777 made in the US.

BAE Land Systems has bought over the erstwhile Swedish firm Bofors that sold 410 155mm howitzers to India in 1986. The army has not bought a single big gun since the last of the Bofors howitzer was delivered in 1987, 22 years back.

ST Kinetics was blacklisted this year after the company figured in investigations into the deals struck by the former director general of the Ordnance Factory Board in Calcutta. The government has lifted the bar on trials in multiple-vendor situations.

If the government takes the foreign military sales route, the order is likely to go to BAE Land Systems. The source said the defence acquisitions council authorised the foreign military sales route before Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s visit to the US last month.

The army wants to buy 145 ultra-light howitzers, 158 towed and wheeled, 100 tracked, and 180 wheeled and armoured guns in the first phase as part of its field artillery rationalisation plan, the programme to upgrade its artillery divisions.

Defence secretary Pradeep Kumar said the government has speeded up the buying of military hardware. Between 2007 and 2009, a total of 465 contracts have been signed. These are worth more than Rs 1,35,000 crore.

He said in 10 years, the defence ministry had doubled the capital expenditure for new acquisitions. The acquisitions were worth Rs 62,272 crore between 1999 and 2004. They total Rs 1,37,496 crore between 2004 and 2009. In the current year (2009-2010), Rs 41,000 crore was being spent on direct capital acquisitions.

The acquisitions have included PHALCON Airborne Warning and Control Systems, Sukhoi 30MKI fighter aircraft, aircraft for VIPs, missiles of different types and tanks.

3 posted on 01/27/2010 2:35:09 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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145 artillery pieces would equip how many infantry divisions?

Oh, for the old days of WW2; this number of guns would have been considered puny by American or Soviet standards.


4 posted on 01/27/2010 2:36:13 PM PST by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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I seem to recall a similar Indian deal with Bofors being scotched over a bribery controversy.


5 posted on 01/27/2010 2:37:15 PM PST by rahbert
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Indian Army to Execute $4 Billion Artillery Projects

http://indiadefenceonline.com/1125/indian-army-to-execute-4-billion-artillery-projects/

India is all set to initiate the long-awaited $4 billion artillery modernisation programme and will shortly float a global tender for the acquisition of 814 motorised howitzers.

The artillery modernisation programme aims to induct roughly 2,814 guns of different types.

Defence Ministry sources said that the project has been granted approval by the Defence Acquisitions Council which is chaired by Defence Minister A K Antony and the Request for Proposal will be issued.

The artillery modernization includes off-the-shelf purchase of 200 155mm/52-calibre mounted gun systems from overseas, which will be followed by indigenous manufacture of another 614 such howitzers under transfer of technology.

The 17-tonne motorized howitzers will arm 40 regiments.

Another major project includes the purchase of 100 155mm/52-calibre self-propelled tracked guns for five artillery regiments and its field trials are slated for May-June 2010.

India is also looking to finalize the Rs 8,000 crore project to buy 400 155mm/52-calibre towed artillery guns, which is to be followed by indigenous manufacture of another 1,180 howitzers.

The contenders are BAE Systems, ST Kinetics of Singapore and Israeli Soltam.

Another project was to acquire 140 air-mobile ultra-light howitzers (ULHs) for Rs 2,900 crore. This is being eagerly awaited since the Indian Army needs ULHs to ensure artillery can be deployed in remote inaccessible areas.

India’s artillery modernization has been plagued with scandals and delays for decades.

No new artillery gun has been inducted ever since the infamous Rs 1,437 crore Bofors contract for 410 field howitzers became a major scandal in 1986.

After that, a series of other delays including more dubious defence scams have kept India from modernizaing its artillery.

Lately, ST Kinetics has also come under the scanner for corruption charges.


6 posted on 01/27/2010 2:41:20 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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US Statement: “[The deal] improve the security of an important partner which continues to be an important force for political stability, peace, and economic progress in South Asia”

Amen.


7 posted on 01/27/2010 2:41:48 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Don't blame me, I'm from Massachusetts)
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To: James C. Bennett

Bet this deal makes the Communist Chinese, and their American supporters, a bit more nervous....


8 posted on 01/27/2010 2:43:57 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (National Security begins at the Border)
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If that’s 40 artillery regiments, and one artillery regiment per division, just for the 155/52 cal. gun system, plus all the other artillery....

Looks like India wants the resources to be able to field a 100 division army if it wants to. By today’s standards, that’s impressive.

Of course, as Saddam Hussein showed, having a bunch of guys with uniforms and weapons does not an army make. One needs training, doctrine, leadership cadre, and a logistic support network. I don’t doubt the Indians are working toward all of these.


9 posted on 01/27/2010 2:46:17 PM PST by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: James C. Bennett

After this, I can’t imagine anyone getting upset with anything Pakistan does...


10 posted on 01/27/2010 2:46:37 PM PST by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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To: James C. Bennett

Only $647 million?

And here we are preoccupied with our mundane concerns about how we will pay the electric bill and keep the house heated.

Let’s see:

Obama Copenhagen promise = $100 million

Haiti promise = $100 million

Howitzers for India $647 million

Obama Slush Fund #1 (Unspent Stimulus) $550 billion

Obama Slush Fund #2 (TARP money paid back) $250 billion

Obama promise to double aid to Africa = $25 billion

We’ve come around to Obama’s way of thinking: We HOPE for a CHANGE.


11 posted on 01/27/2010 2:47:49 PM PST by Iron Munro (God is great, Beer is good, People are crazy)
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To: AlexW; alieno nomine; AmericanInTokyo; angkor; Berosus; Brian Allen; bsariwat; buwaya; ...

Asia Ping


12 posted on 01/27/2010 2:48:55 PM PST by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: Iron Munro

India is buying those howitzers, that would probably mean more jobs in the US. India has already bought military t aircraft( transport/reconnaissance) worth $3 billion from the US in the last 12 months. Another $ 2 billion order for Boeing’s C-17 Globemaster is almost through. US companies are in the hunt for other orders worth nearly $ 12 billion.

Its the Pakistanis who get stuff as aid, not India.


13 posted on 01/27/2010 4:31:26 PM PST by cold start
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To: James C. Bennett

sell them the older ones , not the new triple 7’s

Once we let their technology out there PRC and Russia will have it next . These are awesome weapons . Some things are better off in our own inventory alone . This is one .


14 posted on 01/27/2010 6:06:06 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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Umm, it’s the Pakis who ship off F-16s to Beijing, not India.


15 posted on 01/27/2010 10:34:46 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: LeoWindhorse

Besides the triple-7 is a purely tactical system unlike the F-16/F-18 shich are also being offered to India.


16 posted on 01/27/2010 10:36:04 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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