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Last-minute voters could decide tax Measures 66, 67 [Live Thread]
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| January 26, 2010
| Associated Press and KGW
Posted on 01/26/2010 8:19:43 PM PST by Salvation
Oregon tax election under national scrutiny
by Associated Press and KGW
Posted on January 26, 2010 at 7:56 AM
Updated today at 2:12 PM ******
PORTLAND, Ore. -- With a surge of last-minute votes expected, Oregon voters will decide Tuesday whether to impose higher taxes on businesses and people whose income is well into six figures.
Polling suggests the results on Measures 66 and 67 will be close, and the outcome may depend on turnout.
The vote has attracted national media attention, including a report on National Public Radio, as another measure of how Democrats will fare in the mid-term elections this fall.
The stakes in the struggle between business interests and public employee unions are high -- the revenue from the two measures is expected to account for about 5.5 of the state's general fund budget over the next two years.
Together, the two sides have spent more than $10 million on the campaign.
Opponents of the taxes say draining the money from private hands would damage the state's economy, still hurting from a recession and downturns in sectors such as construction, real estate and manufacturing that have boosted the state's unemployment rate to 11 percent.
Supporters say the money was part of a package including federal stimulus dollars and reserve withdrawals that kept the Legislature from cutting the budget further. They say losing it will mean more job cuts and larger classes in schools, and more suffering among those dependent on public services.
Secretary of State Kate Brown predicts that 62 percent of the 2 million registered voters will have mailed in or dropped off their ballots by the time counting begins. When Oregon voters gave up polling places in 2000, many of them sent their ballots by mail. Now, Brown said, more are waiting until the last minute and then, when it's too late for the Postal Service to deliver, dropping their ballots in deposit boxes at courthouses and other public places.
"We've seen them hold onto their ballots longer, usually resulting in a large spike the weekend before election day, and on election day itself," Brown said.
If she's right, then the ballots of about one in six Oregonians will have arrived in the final days of voting.
The latest figures on the secretary of state's Web site put the turnout figure, as of Saturday, at 45 percent. Fresher figures were expected Tuesday.
The most closely watched number will be in Portland's Multnomah County, a bastion of liberals whose turnout was last among the counties, at 41 percent.
Polling results suggest that raising taxes on the earnings of the wealthy is more popular than raising taxes on business, and raised the possibility that one tax might be approved and the other fail.
Measure 66, on income taxes, was winning approval 50-44 in a poll conducted last week by Portland media.
The higher business taxes at issue in Measure 67 also were winning approval. But the results at 48-45 were short of majority approval and within the margin of error of the poll, plus or minus 4.4 percentage points. The poll was of 500 likely voters.
Compared with the results from a similar poll a week earlier, the margins had shrunk and support for the taxes had dropped, as pollster Tim Hibbitts of Portland predicted.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: 66; 67; activism; frontpage; or2010; taxes
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posted on
01/26/2010 8:19:45 PM PST
by
Salvation
To: abcraghead; aimhigh; Archie Bunker on steroids; bicycle thug; blackie; coffeebreak; ...
Oregon Ping Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Oregon Ping List.
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posted on
01/26/2010 8:20:51 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Salvation
Oregonian has called this one as BOTH PASSED....
WTF are these people thinking???
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posted on
01/26/2010 8:22:26 PM PST
by
tcrlaf
(Obama White House=Tammany Hall on the National Mall)
To: abcraghead; aimhigh; Archie Bunker on steroids; bicycle thug; blackie; coffeebreak; ...
As local precinct counts are posted in your locality, please post them.
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posted on
01/26/2010 8:23:10 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Salvation
SEIU was prepared for this one...
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posted on
01/26/2010 8:24:56 PM PST
by
gibtx2
(keep up the good work I am out of work but post 20 a month to this out of WF Check)
To: gibtx2
Yup, the misleading class-warfare ads run by the teachers’ union, and the SEIU were barely countered. So much more money on the “wrong” side of this issue.
It’s amazing that they think this will RAISE revenues.
To: Salvation
OregonLive -- Oregonian
Last-minute voters could decide tax Measures 66, 67
January 25, 2010, 8:44PM
Beth Nakamura/The OregonianMichael Cahill of Northeast Portland passes by a ballot drop box Monday at Pioneer Courthouse Square. Ballots must be turned in by 8p.m. Tuesday to count in the election on Measures 66 and 67.
After a bruising campaign and weeks of voting by mail, today's big tax election may be decided by an onslaught of last-minute voters such as Courtenay Morton and Neil McManaway, two Portlanders who were among a steady stream of voters dropping off ballots Monday at Pioneer Courthouse Square.
Morton, 34, a homemaker, and McManaway, 31, an unemployed architect, voted "yes" on the measures. But opponents of the two tax measures said they are rounding up scads of late "no" votes as well from fence-sitters and procrastinators.
"The election is going to be close enough that those who are still wrestling with a decision and sending in their ballots can have a significant effect," said Pat McCormick, spokesman for Oregonians Against Job-Killing Taxes, the main group opposing Measures 66 and 67.
Tuesday is the last day to vote on whether to increase taxes on higher-income earners and corporations to pay for schools and other state services. Ballots, which have been in the hands of voters for nearly three weeks, must be deposited in one of nearly . It's too late to mail them to meet Tuesday's 8 p.m. deadline.
So far,
nearly 1 million people have voted, or about half of Oregon's 2 million registered voters. Tens of thousands more are expected to cast ballots Tuesday as Oregonians continue a trend of voting under the pressure of a deadline.
Secretary of State Kate Brown has predicted statewide turnout of 62 to 64 percent, which would mean another 200,000 votes cast by tonight.
McCormick said he's encouraged by the large turnouts in counties viewed as anti-tax compared with a lower turnout in the Portland tri-county area.
Multnomah County in particular has been lagging behind, which has concerned supporters who are depending on a large "yes" vote in the Portland area to overcome opposition to the tax hikes. Ellen Guiney, spokeswoman for Vote Yes for Oregon, said Portland tends to vote late.
Multnomah "has a whole lot of young voters, and young voters tend to vote late," she said.
Numbers reported by the county appear to back her up. On Monday,
about 31,433 voters handed in ballots, the most in a single day since the mail voting began Jan. 11.
Both sides said they will continue their full-court press on the phones, scanning voter lists supplied by the state and urging people to get to a drop-off box. Campaign ads will continue running as well on TV and radio.
Other states facing budget shortages will be watching the results closely.
The New York Times and the
Los Angeles Times both weighed in with weekend stories about the vote.
"Oregon's vote is seen as possibly a model for other states," said James Moore, political science professor at Pacific University. "Especially since, if it passes, it will be a tax increase that voters actually approved."
Closer to home, the voting has yet again divided the state into competing camps, pitting public employee unions against Oregon's business community. Nike founder Phil Knight weighed in with words and dollars, becoming the biggest single donor to the opposition. Teachers unions contributed millions of dollars to pass the tax increases.
"It's been set up as an either-or, taxes or schools," said Jackson Miller, a Linfield College communications professor who studies Oregon's initiative and referendum system.
To date, supporters have raised about $6.8 million in campaign contributions compared with $4.6 million raised by opponents of the measures.
The two measures would raise an estimated $727 million. That money already has been budgeted for public school spending and other state services. A defeat would require the Legislature to rebalance the 2009-11 state budget when it convenes next week for a short session.
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Harry Esteve
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posted on
01/26/2010 8:29:04 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Salvation
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posted on
01/26/2010 8:29:14 PM PST
by
amom
To: Der_Hirnfänger
they know it wont and it will cause more folks on the dole which is what they want.. they want to create the state of emergency and going out of business puts the government in business and them in power for ever.... it is exactly what they want...
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posted on
01/26/2010 8:29:57 PM PST
by
gibtx2
(keep up the good work I am out of work but post 20 a month to this out of WF Check)
To: tcrlaf
I sure hope that isn’t true. Any links yet?
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posted on
01/26/2010 8:30:08 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: tcrlaf
Oregon is the new Sweden.
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posted on
01/26/2010 8:30:18 PM PST
by
mojito
To: amom
More Coos Co.
Election officials have counted about 20,000 votes, approximately 57 percent of registered voters in Coos County. County Clerk Terri Turi estimated there would be between 60 and 65 percent voter participation.
from link above
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posted on
01/26/2010 8:31:29 PM PST
by
amom
To: Salvation
Hopefully those last minute votes will be overwhelmingly against.
I CAN NOT believe a 10% margin in favor!
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posted on
01/26/2010 8:32:09 PM PST
by
Clinging Bitterly
(We need to limit political office holders to two terms. One in office, and one in prison.)
To: gibtx2
Totally sickening. This was retro active for all of 2009 with nothing witheld. A lot of state senators, reps and the dimocrat governor are going to roll over to GOP if this does pass. Just my opinion.
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posted on
01/26/2010 8:32:53 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Salvation
Curry County voters: 58 percent of them cast no votes on the two ballots, while about 42 percent favored them. Officials in Gold Beach have counted about 64 percent of ballots, 8,700, turned in by voters as of 8 p.m.
...
Douglas County voters: Two-thirds of voters have voted no, with election officials in Roseburg having counted about 51 percent of registered voters’ ballots, about 33,000.
http://www.theworldlink.com/articles/2010/01/26/world_print/doc4b5fbd0f05bef925300889.txt
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posted on
01/26/2010 8:33:12 PM PST
by
amom
To: gibtx2
The taxpayers and, in the long run, SEIU, will be the losers in the end since the businesses that can leave the state will do so.
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posted on
01/26/2010 8:33:51 PM PST
by
Major Matt Mason
(Alinsky's values aren't American values.)
To: gibtx2
Thanks Oregon sheeple,(well I really mean Calif. transplants) even though I finally gave up my residence in the state but I still have family living there. Stupid SOB’s don’t get it I guess. Wonder how long it will be before Businesses start packing and leaving for better places. Do know that IF I was still there being I had a business I would be making plans to shut down and evacuate. Welcome to Orefornia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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posted on
01/26/2010 8:33:52 PM PST
by
jedi150
To: Clinging Bitterly
**I CAN NOT believe a 10% margin in favor!**
Me either.
One thing I was disappointed in, though was that AFP didn’t come out with some more ads at the last minute on this like the OEA and SEIU did.
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posted on
01/26/2010 8:34:53 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: amom
This is encouraging, but then we have dumb Portland — sorry Portland FReepers, but a lot of dims live up there.
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posted on
01/26/2010 8:36:15 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Salvation
Both measures passed. Measure 66 reduced income taxes on unemployment checks and Measure 67 taxed the rich. On the one hand, most voters got to reduce their own taxes and on the other hand, voted to tax those they perceived could pay more. I'm not surprised at the outcome.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus
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posted on
01/26/2010 8:38:13 PM PST
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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