Obamacare Is Dead and Here's Why [Obamacare Ongoing Thread]

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[JustPiper]

As the Massachusetts blame game unfolds, the president’s unpopular health bill leads the list. But the substantive provisions of the bill were just part of the problem. Perhaps more important, voters were appalled by how the deal unfolded.

Consider the pre-election giveaway to the labor unions. Negotiators agreed to exempt union contracts until 2018 from the tax on so-called Cadillac health-insurance plans. That backroom bargain not only outraged the voters, it also violated the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, requiring the federal government to extend equal protection of the laws to all U.S. persons. Of course, not all voters understood the constitutional nuances, but they sensed that something was very wrong; and they reacted.

I have been disturbed by the socialists for years, ever since I learned many members of Congress 'openly' joined the DSA (Democratic Socialists of America). Several years ago, the names were published on the DSA site. (since removed of course) Please post any info you have, many of you have been on this issue for many years, & if we can store it all on one thread, we have our FreeRepublic Warehouse on the enemies of the state. How DO we combat this, when it's coming at us from every angle? When the people have been asleep for decades. Please post anything you have found or accumulated. Also choose a dictator these people follow, of particular interest,those in D.C. who have been quoted with their adulation of one.

Communism- Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism-Trotskyism-Maoism- Hoxhaism-Hoxhaism-Titoism ETC

[JustPiper]

Fox News is reporting that Pelosi announced that there will be NO separate bill for Stupak
~A Stupak BUMP!

[JustPiper]

If you would like to be added to my TM pinglist or removed just email me

[thouworm]

Dems in disarray in Rules committee?
posted at 1:11 pm on March 20, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
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It’s perhaps the most jarring bit of irony in the entire health-care debate. The House Rules committee is meeting as I write this post, attempting to put together the package that will govern the reconciliation bill to a floor vote sometime tomorrow. As Byron York reports, though, the Democrats on the committee seem to have hit a problem with … the rules:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Rules-Committee-meeting-descends-into-chaos-88725962.html

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/03/20/dems-in-disarray-in-rules-committee/

[MestaMachine]

Not gonna bless stupak. He knew from the gitgo the abortion language would be kicked out by the senate, but he voted for this monster anyway. Remember, it only passed by ONE vote. If any of these pr!cks were serious about anything, we wouldn’t be in this mess to begin with. A pox on ALL of them!
By the way. My GOD rule was in effect today. It goes like this.
If you try to do something and something totally unforeseen happens out of the blue, that is strike one.
If you figure out a way to solve that problem and something totally unforeseen happens again, pay attention. Someone is trying to tell you something.
If you figure out how to solve the second problem and something unforseen happens yet again, it’s GOD saying, “NOPE!”
And I pay attention to that because every single time I have gone ahead afer the third warning, there has been trouble up the wazoo.
That is when I turned us around and headed home.

[JustPiper]

May He bless you too my friend

[JustPiper]

Four More ‘No’ Votes Switch to ‘Yes’

~WHO?! Someone please post names

[thouworm]

Hatch to House Dems: If you believe we’ll pass your reconciliation bill as written …
posted at 1:00 pm on March 20, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
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Not only does the most gentlemanly of Senators blast his lower-chamber colleagues for their belief that reconciliation will sail through the upper chamber unchanged, Orrin Hatch warns Senate Democrats that an attempt to push it through will mean “war.” If they believe Republicans will just sit back and allow Democrats to run roughshod over the minority, they will find themselves in a battle they’ll regret “for the rest of their lives”:

Republican Senator Orrin Hatch said Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives are “nuts” to think tomorrow’s vote on health-care legislation will resolve the issue.

If the measure passes, Senate Republicans have enough votes on at least two points of order to alter the measure and send it back to the House for a second round of votes, Hatch said in an interview on Bloomberg Television’s “Political Capital with Al Hunt,” airing this weekend.

“If those people think they’re only going to vote on this once, they’re nuts,” Hatch said as House Democratic leaders rounded up support before the scheduled vote on President Barack Obama’s top domestic priority.

The senator from Utah also said the approach Democrats are using to pass the legislation in the House may be unconstitutional because the House and Senate aren’t voting on “exactly the same language.”

I’ve interviewed Hatch a few times, and this is about as harsh as he ever gets. He generally likes to work towards consensus, not confrontation; fire and brimstone aren’t part of his nature. So when Hatch says this, it means something:
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/03/20/hatch-to-house-dems-if-you-believe-well-pass-your-reconciliation-bill-as-written/

[JustPiper]

Jon Voight just spoke will now be on FNC

Also the Comm meeting on CSpan 2, Don’t have audio on, but I saw our guy Paul Ryan smirking

http://www.cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN2.aspx

[JustPiper]

That makes me mad, you going through that! Frustrated because there is no LIVE coverage of large rally, no idea the numbers that showed even

Per FNC Brian, 5-10 votes short right now

[thouworm]

from another thread

RT @Staas1: TURN ON CSPAN2 NOW! Reconciliation in session!!!!

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN2.aspx

[JustPiper]

Now calling it The Dog it is on CSPan2 Re Con Bill!
Pete Sessions calling out them on their kickback deals in Comm! Go Pete!

Rep. Barton (R) of TX

Idiot Dem speaking stressing he’s offended was referred to as LA Purchase etal

Holy Moley crowd is HUGE around Voight

[MestaMachine]

on. Andrews now with crap. No special deals for certain states my butt!

[JustPiper]

LMAO Barton calling him a LIAR saying they were NOT eliminated from sweetheart deals, language nder another guise! This is a great fight going on in COMM

[MestaMachine]

Voight says they are going IN! Holy Cow! Oh my!!

[JustPiper]

Rob Andrews NJ dancing around Clintonianisms about what Is IS

Conservs look pissed! They were just accused of obstructionism! Keeping it from a vote in COMM! Camp just revealed that unions get big tax breaks in Recon Bill, but in the “Original” bill yes, deals have been removed. Oh, this is too good! Dave Camp (R) kicking arse! He’s revealing pork deals in Recon Bill! Can’t even type fast enough to post the deals, 100 mil to a hospital (Conn ), bank deal in ND.Andrews saying yes these things ARE in RECON Bill, but saying it’s not an earmark, oh geeze

[thouworm]

...it’s hard to listen to those liars. in fact I can’t; I shut my ears.

BTW your post 1444: “By the way. My GOD rule was in effect today. It goes like this.”

Did you see mypost #1439
“just think of it this way...maybe you are supposed to be right where you are.”

Glad to see you say that; it was my first thought when you reported you couldn’t make it in.

[JustPiper]

Becerra is disgusting! Can someone post what FNC reports, this is too good to leave

Pete Sessions talks just like Jeff! He’s taking names & calling out & will emerge as another hero for us. He’s pointing out the rule COMM does not have a copy of these sneaky amendments, The Rep. has not been given the latitude to see them! Pallone (D-NJ) admits these kickbacks were in the Senate Bill but it’s not a buyoff in the RECON bill, WHAT TRUE BS!!!

[JustPiper]

Not put in bill to “BUY” votes lmao! Sessions is ripping him a new one, WATCH & get info on these RECON Amendments, THAT’s where the gold is for us! This is unreal, how the Dims are dancing the english language here & modifying it to try & cover up the true words.

~Paul up!

[MestaMachine]

There is a ton of people who got there. Just finally saw a pan. The bus lanes stayed open. People are still coming. Thank YOU, Lord!

[JustPiper]

PAul:

You can’t count money TWICE! lol, talking points on Dims lying, fidging CBO numbers Pallone said you CAN count the money many times , this is PRICELESS