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1 posted on 01/24/2010 7:47:36 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

et tu Post?


2 posted on 01/24/2010 7:49:18 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

another aftershock


4 posted on 01/24/2010 7:54:31 PM PST by seton89 (Use Amendment X as your email signature)
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“The truth is, we may never know whether the administration made the right call or whether it squandered a valuable opportunity.”

It squandered it to be PC for liberals.

5 posted on 01/24/2010 7:54:58 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What was their first clue, I wonder. Who knew?


6 posted on 01/24/2010 7:55:18 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: SeekAndFind

Liberals can’t govern in reality, only in theory.


8 posted on 01/24/2010 7:56:38 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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But the decision to try Mr. Abdulmutallab turns out to have resulted not from a deliberative process but as a knee-jerk default to a crime-and-punishment model.”

The entire Obama administration as well as the WaPo editorials have always been about knee-jerk liberal politics. Why change WaPo? starting to feel alittle unsafe now that the Cowboy has left Washington?

10 posted on 01/24/2010 7:59:51 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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Gosh...does it get any better than this?
12 posted on 01/24/2010 8:02:32 PM PST by truthkeeper ("Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?")
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
The Washington Post supported the Obama administration's treatment of Christmas day bomber Umar Abdulmuttalab as a criminal rather than as an enemy combatant. In an editorial published yesterday, It has nevertheless retracted its support. The Post writes that it "originally supported the administration's decision in the Abdulmutallab case, assuming that it had been made after due consideration. But the decision to try Mr. Abdulmutallab turns out to have resulted not from a deliberative process but as a knee-jerk default to a crime-and-punishment model." ...The stated ground for the Post's original editorial position is lame. It criticizes the decision on procedural grounds. Is the Post incapable of judging its substance?

13 posted on 01/24/2010 8:02:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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It is highly unusual to see a prominent newspaper editorial board publicly change its mind.

Is CommieCare™ next?

14 posted on 01/24/2010 8:02:52 PM PST by Libloather (Tea totaler, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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More cards are beginning to fall.


17 posted on 01/24/2010 8:10:23 PM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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Then why, pray tell, did Obama-Holder&Co got to the trouble of creating "HIG" High Value Intelligence Group on August 29th, 2009 - if they never intended for guys like Atabmullahab to be quizzed by them?

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2009/August/09-ag-835.html

The Task Force concluded, however, that the United States could improve its ability to interrogate the most dangerous terrorists by forming a specialized interrogation group, or High-Value Detainee Interrogation Group (HIG), that would bring together the most effective and experienced interrogators and support personnel from across the Intelligence Community, the Department of Defense and law enforcement. The creation of the HIG would build upon a proposal developed by the Intelligence Science Board.

To accomplish that goal, the Task Force recommended that the HIG should coordinate the deployment of mobile teams of experienced interrogators, analysts, subject matter experts and linguists to conduct interrogations of high-value terrorists if the United States obtains the ability to interrogate them. The primary goal of this elite interrogation group would be gathering intelligence to prevent terrorist attacks and otherwise to protect national security. Advance planning and interagency coordination prior to interrogations would also allow the United States, where appropriate, to preserve the option of gathering information to be used in potential criminal investigations and prosecutions.

It's either the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing or, more likely, both hands are dedicated to protecting Muslim terrorists and not offending Muslim nations.

22 posted on 01/24/2010 8:30:15 PM PST by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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hahahaha, poor obama. Everyone’s dumping on him these days.


24 posted on 01/24/2010 8:32:20 PM PST by Girlene (lol - obama has the stink)
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To: SeekAndFind

WaPo can just shove it up their collective butts.

You know, these idiots are the ones that say that it is The Press that keep democracy healthy.

All I can ever see is that they seek to destroy the country and then, when people actually make them look as stupid as they are, they recant to try to “save face.”

May the WaPo rot in Hell.


26 posted on 01/24/2010 8:34:45 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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I think Holder will be gone by year’s end, if not sooner.


30 posted on 01/24/2010 8:40:48 PM PST by freespirited (Congratulations Senator Brown. One down, 59 to go.)
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Good...’bout time to turn on the impostor...now those criminals in congress are trying to sneak obamacare care through.


34 posted on 01/24/2010 8:47:16 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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Good grief, the Post says something sane.

Did Hell freeze over too?

35 posted on 01/24/2010 8:51:22 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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It notes, on the one hand: "The administration claims Mr. Abdulmutallab provided valuable information -- and probably exhausted his knowledge of al-Qaeda operations -- before he clammed up. This was immediately after he was read his Miranda rights and provided with a court-appointed lawyer."

He was interrogated for only fifty-minutes before they administered pain medication for his injuries. I doubt very seriously if he did much singing in that little time if they were that worried about his self-inflicted injuries.

36 posted on 01/24/2010 8:51:27 PM PST by kcvl
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Abdulmutallab interrogated for less than an hour; White House defends handling of terrorist case

By: Byron York
Chief Political Correspondent
01/24/10 9:17 PM EST

The White House is not disputing a report that FBI agents questioned accused Northwest Airlines bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab for just 50 minutes before deciding to grant him the right to remain silent and provide him with a court-appointed lawyer — a decision that led Abdulmutallab to stop talking and provide no more information.

The news came in an Associated Press reconstruction of Abdulmutallab’s first hours in custody. The AP reported that Abdulmutallab “repeatedly made incriminating statements” to U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents who originally took him into custody. Then Abdulmutallab made more statements to doctors who were treating him for burns and other injuries. Only later did FBI agents interview him — a session that lasted, according to the Associated Press, for “about 50 minutes.” Before beginning the questioning, the AP continues, “the FBI agents decided not to give him his Miranda warnings informing him of his right to remain silent” — apparently relying on an exception to Miranda that allows questioning about imminent threats.

After that, Abdulmutallab went into surgery. It was four hours before he was available for more questioning. By that time, the Justice Department in Washington had intervened. A new set of agents read Abdulmutallab the Miranda warning, telling him he had the right to remain silent — and thereafter, Abdulmutallab remained silent.

On “Fox News Sunday,” host Chris Wallace asked White House spokesman Robert Gibbs whether President Obama was informed of the decision to read Abdulmutallab his Miranda rights before or after it was done. Gibbs avoided the question, saying, “That decision was made by the Justice Department and the FBI, with experienced FBI interrogators.” Gibbs stressed that “Abdulmutallab was interrogated and valuable intelligence was gotten as a result of that interrogation.”

Wallace pressed. “But we now find out he was interrogated for 50 minutes,” he said to Gibbs. “When they came back, he was read his Miranda rights and he clammed up.”

“No,” Gibbs answered. “Again, he was interrogated. Valuable intelligence was gotten based on those interrogations. And I think the Department of Justice and the — made the right decision, as did those FBI agents.”

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Abdulmutallab-interrogated-for-less-than-an-hour-White-House-defends-handling-of-terrorist-case-82564657.html#ixzz0db33KUNZ


38 posted on 01/24/2010 8:52:04 PM PST by kcvl
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We originally supported the administration's decision in the Abdulmutallab case, assuming that it had been made after due consideration.

Then we lost a Senate seat in Massachusetts to an Army JAG, who eviscerated Obama on this issue.

"I believe that our Constitution and laws exist to protect this nation - they do not grant rights and privileges to enemies in wartime. In dealing with terrorists, our tax dollars should pay for weapons to stop them, not lawyers to defend them."

The only due consideration the WP had was many more Democrat seats would be lost in November with Obama's indefensible idiocy.

39 posted on 01/24/2010 8:53:34 PM PST by Plutarch
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Abdulmutallab’s Encounter With the “Clean Team”
Before being Mirandized, he was singing like a canary.

BY Stephen F. Hayes
January 23, 2010 8:11 PM

The Associated Press has a fascinating blow-by-blow account of the interrogation of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab that adds several new details to previous reports on his handling. Overall, however, this news does not change the disturbing picture of the reflexive, law-enforcement-first approach the Obama administration took with the al Qaeda operative. And with the new details come new troubling questions.

The story tells us that Abdulmutallab was Mirandized approximately 10 hours after he was taken into custody. Before then, he received medical attention and was interrogated twice. The first interrogation was conducted by local FBI agents and included a Customs and Border Protection official and an agent from the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent. The first interview lasted 50 minutes, and Abdulmutallab reportedly talked freely. The second interview, five hours later, the FBI used a “clean team” that included elements of local joint terrorism task force. The second interrogation yielded nothing. When Abdulmutallab was Mirandized, he stopped cooperating altogether.

The story is fascinating both for what is in it and for what is not. Nowhere in the detailed narrative do we learn about contact with intelligence officials in Washington. And several senior counterterrorism officials testified in Congress on Wednesday that they were not consulted about the interrogation process.

TWS reported that the FBI officials who interrogated Abdulmutallab did not draw on the many pieces of intelligence that had been collected by the US intelligence community over the previous several months.

The bottom line: Abdulmutallab’s cooperation was limited to a 50-minute preliminary interview conducted by local agents as he waited for pain meds and more treatment. The second interview produced nothing and he has exercised his newfound right to remain silent ever since.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/abdulmutallabs-encounter-clean-team


41 posted on 01/24/2010 8:54:30 PM PST by kcvl
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