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To: mad_as_he$$
I predict Montana loses this round.

More like the feds will proclaim that Montana loses. Whether or not they actually do depends on the people and State officials of Montana. If the State of Montana is willing to actually defend the rights of the people they will tell the feds "NO, WE REALLY MEAN IT" and any agents sent to enforce their federal proclamation will be jailed.

Tenth Amendment and all that… We will see if Montana is serious about this.

29 posted on 01/22/2010 8:05:30 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI
If the State of Montana is willing to actually defend the rights of the people they will tell the feds "NO, WE REALLY MEAN IT" and any agents sent to enforce their federal proclamation will be jailed.

Montana's bill doesn't explicitly criminalize continued federal efforts to enforce their laws (the bill New Hampshire is considering does!), but they might still be able to do so based on violating civil rights under color of authority or something like that.

32 posted on 01/22/2010 8:14:46 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: TLI
A sheriff in Northern Idaho revoked the MOU’s with several fed agencies years ago. The Feds just cut off all money to the State. Game over.
51 posted on 01/22/2010 9:29:05 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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To: TLI

The act and legislation was signed by Brian Schweitzer, a democrat.


81 posted on 01/22/2010 4:54:44 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (I'll miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error!)
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To: TLI; mad_as_he$$
I predict Montana loses this round.

More like the feds will proclaim that Montana loses. Whether or not they actually do depends on the people and State officials of Montana. If the State of Montana is willing to actually defend the rights of the people they will tell the feds "NO, WE REALLY MEAN IT" and any agents sent to enforce their federal proclamation will be jailed.

I would like to see a large state like Texas or, better yet, many states simultaneously, give an ultimatum to the feds: keep out of our affairs or we will arrest your agents. If you attempt to stop us in any way, we will withhold all income and excise taxes paid by any person or entity within our jurisdiction, and we will mobilize our state militias."

That would grab national and international attention, and would force the fed.gov to back down. What are they going to do, invade Texas (or many states) where there are tens of millions of guns? That won't happen.

The tragedy is that neither will such an ultimatum - though I'd support it. I swore an oath to defend and protect the Constitution against all enemies, foreign AND domestic - and a fed.gov intent on collecting a large measure of the powers that, under the Constitution, belong to the states and the people is a "domestic enemy" by my definition. Oh, what I wouldn't give for one governor with a real spine.

125 posted on 01/26/2010 10:51:34 AM PST by Ancesthntr (Tyrant: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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