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Japan's Economic Death Accelerates As Retail Sales Nose-Dive Back to 1980s Levels
Business Insider ^ | 01/22/10 | Vincent Fernando

Posted on 01/22/2010 4:54:27 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Japan's Economic Death Accelerates As Retail Sales Nose-Dive Back to 1980s Levels

Vincent Fernando | Jan. 22, 2010, 6:20 AM | 229 | comment

Japan's retail industry is getting destroyed from the persistent lack of consumer demand.

Latest data shows that retail sales have kept falling like a rock, touching levels not seen since the late 1980s.

AP:

Department stores and supermarkets were hit hard by the recession with department store sales falling below 7 trillion yen for the first time since 1985 while supermarket sales dropping below 13 trillion yen for the first time since 1988, data released by industry groups showed Friday.

On a same-store basis, both department store and supermarket sales fell for the 13th consecutive year, showing no sign of touching bottom in the face of declining personal consumption amid the economic slump.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; japan; nosedive; retailsales
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1 posted on 01/22/2010 4:54:27 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 01/22/2010 4:54:48 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
the persistent lack of consumer demand

Is that a sign of deflation?

3 posted on 01/22/2010 5:02:40 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We have the 1st so that we can call on people to rebel. We have 2nd so that they can.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Maybe they’ve decided they’d rather have money than overpriced and ultimately worthless consumer goods and trendy fashions.


4 posted on 01/22/2010 5:02:52 AM PST by babble-on
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I guess if we stop being robo-consumers, the rest of the world has major problems. Especially true for the Asian countries that supply our addiction (er....export to us).


5 posted on 01/22/2010 5:04:44 AM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
The COL is very high in Japan as well as taxes. With the recent globally conspired credit bubble, the demand for commodities have shot up in price. Japan has to import 80% of its food and they have had a very low birth rate for years now coupled with an aging workforce.

When a condo mortgage in Tokyo 3 enslaves generations, that leaves no room for economic cycles, yet, it binds discretionary spending in the down parts.....China as taken over Japan's manufacturing base because of above mentioned (cheaper labor).

I personally know of 3 business ventures in China that have gone sour for a large Japanese corporation...hundreds of millions.

Te Chinese are taking vengeance upon Japan because of WWII and the history with such as The Rape of Nanking.

The Japanese are also saddled with large payments to government public works construction bonds.

6 posted on 01/22/2010 5:09:30 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: babble-on

It probably doesn’t help that a quarter of Japan’s population is over 65 and that the fertility rate is below replacement level.


7 posted on 01/22/2010 5:10:07 AM PST by Doohickey (I try to take my days one at a time, but occasionally several days attack me at once.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I find the drop in food store sales interesting. Since Japan has an aging population I wonder how much of this drop is related to that?


8 posted on 01/22/2010 5:11:11 AM PST by red tie
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To: RSmithOpt
From an economic standpoint, we are in the same boat as Japan and Congress turns a blind eye to it all and thinks discretionary consumer spending will fix our economy. Truth is, we have the 2nd largest corporate tax burden in the world.

Couple that with a significantly reduced manufacturing base for consumables and necessities such as clothing, furniture, tools, appliances, electronics, etc., we're f'd by all the 'free trade'.

Of course this is by design by those that are and have been running the goobermint as cheaper imported goods means (in their minds) more discretionary spending dollars for the goobermint to take to feed their ever growing machine......train wreck ahead.

9 posted on 01/22/2010 5:16:56 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Doohickey
It probably doesn’t help that a quarter of Japan’s population is over 65 and that the fertility rate is below replacement level.

I think that is the cruz of the problem. The U.S. is headed toward the same problem with the just-beginning retirement of the Baby Boom Generation.

10 posted on 01/22/2010 5:28:19 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ClearCase_guy

Well, if nobody’s buying, the price will fall or the supply will dry up, barring some form of subsidy.


11 posted on 01/22/2010 5:35:33 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RSmithOpt

Bump.

I wonder if Republicans will fall for the Bush/Hastert/Lott ‘grow our way( by any means )’ trick again? Before the Obama budget, Bush and the mostly Republican controlled Congress doubled our entire debt. Obama has doubled it again.

We are in the best of hands. /sarc.

Oh, also, the Japan turn around, I belive, there was a wiz kid involved named.....Timothy Geithner.


12 posted on 01/22/2010 5:36:59 AM PST by Leisler (We don't need a third party we need a conservative second party.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

You can go to a hundred once productive cities in the North East, mid west that’s productive, white, taxpaying population has been replaced with a low educated, high drop out from free schools, no to low tax paying, high welfare and government money consuming immigrant population.

Soon, it will be entire states. Detroit is the model for most old urban cities.

Even political hubs like Albany have something like ten thousand abandoned homes.


13 posted on 01/22/2010 5:41:24 AM PST by Leisler (We are in the best of hands)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The U.S. fertility rate is hovering around replacement level (2.1). However, with a welfare state that promotes permiscuity I am forced to wonder if the demographics of that fertility rate are conducive to maintaining a free society.


14 posted on 01/22/2010 5:53:12 AM PST by Doohickey (I try to take my days one at a time, but occasionally several days attack me at once.)
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To: RSmithOpt
The Japanese are busy bee workers with little honey to show for it. How did this sorry state happen? The political parties of Japan:


15 posted on 01/22/2010 5:54:11 AM PST by Reeses
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To: Leisler
Remember that Greenspan and other Bildebergs convinced former Congressmen and Presidents that they could manipulate the world's economy by such control and measures. That assumption and practice has been implemented and is still alive and well.

The technique was employed to allow goobermint to grow itself, to gain more power and control....unfortunately one thing has come to pass on a national & global basis that has screwed the pooch with that tactic.

That is too many variables because of the nature of mankind: Greed and Pride and that knows no color or one language.

16 posted on 01/22/2010 5:59:27 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Reeses

IOW, socialism, again, doesn’t work. Well seems like a homogeneous cultural race like-minded fiscal snafu to the first degree.


17 posted on 01/22/2010 6:04:46 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: RSmithOpt

I just read Greenspan’s book. Shocking. The guy is basically a talented clerk, but otherwise a dolt. Benanke has deer in the head lights look about him.

It is all resting, all of it, the entire world on those paper dollars.

I sniff Wiemar Republic times, times the whole world coming.

We have just entered the beginning of the beginning of the death of world wide fiat paper money.


18 posted on 01/22/2010 6:06:33 AM PST by Leisler (We are in the best of hands)
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To: Leisler
Greenspan has several time talked about the New World Order and believes in it until his last breath. He assumes 98% of the global population is lazy, ignorant, cowardly and dumb.

The majority of people do not realize 'The Agenda' and who all is behind it and what their goal is.....we just see bits and pieces of it like in the ObammaCare bill, Climategate, and the Crap & Tax attempt.

Seeing who all are members of the CFR, TLC, Wall Street Bank CEO's (some now on The Fed, Sec of the Treasury) etc. and much more is a real eye-opener.

Call me nuts, but if one looks hard enough and draws a few time lines, it is all conspired for us all average folk to be economic slaves for the elite and their whims.

Do not misunderstand me....I admire people who become honest self-made millionaires and retain their integrity.....it's the other 95% that run the show are the problem.

19 posted on 01/22/2010 6:18:09 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yep.


20 posted on 01/22/2010 6:37:25 AM PST by NVDave
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