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Our Second FReeper Book Club: The Debate over the Constitution
A Publius Essay | 20 January 2010 | Publius

Posted on 01/20/2010 11:29:03 AM PST by Publius

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To: MamaTexan

You’re going to have a lot of fun on February 1, when we dissect Centinel #1, Samuel Bryan’s artillery barrage against the new Constitution.


21 posted on 01/20/2010 12:06:03 PM PST by Publius
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To: Publius

Add me to the list Publius. I’m glad to see the project started.


22 posted on 01/20/2010 12:16:03 PM PST by whodathunkit (Obama is the caboose of the long train of usurpations)
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To: Publius

Yeah, ping me.


23 posted on 01/20/2010 12:18:41 PM PST by TradicalRC (Secular conservatism is liberalism.)
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To: Publius
"Any takers?"

A very enthusiastic "YES!" from me. Sign me up. The semi-biblical references are absolutely genius. I cannot imagine the amount of work you two have put into this. Thanks for your efforts.

24 posted on 01/20/2010 12:24:57 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: Publius

Add this one too!


25 posted on 01/20/2010 12:32:15 PM PST by EBH (An honest man is one who knows that he can't consume more than he has produced." ~~D'Aconia)
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To: Publius

Please add me to the list.


26 posted on 01/20/2010 12:34:22 PM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: Publius
Looks interesting.

-PJ

27 posted on 01/20/2010 12:35:16 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Publius

Count me in.


28 posted on 01/20/2010 12:36:17 PM PST by stylin_geek (Greed and envy is used by our political class to exploit the rich and poor.)
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To: Publius

In!


29 posted on 01/20/2010 12:36:58 PM PST by Carlucci (Sarah Palin: Demonstrably Good!)
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To: Publius

i’ll do it. I didn’t comment much last time, I don’t know if I will this time either.


30 posted on 01/20/2010 12:38:22 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Publius
Ding me.

Please.

31 posted on 01/20/2010 12:41:40 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Publius

Sign me up. Thanks, this looks like a great deal of work, but I am looking forward to it!


32 posted on 01/20/2010 12:44:55 PM PST by Betis70 (Never Forget)
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To: Publius

Please Pingeth me!


33 posted on 01/20/2010 12:45:07 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: Publius

OKay, you hooked me ...

I’ll try and keep up with all y’all

21stCenturion


34 posted on 01/20/2010 12:45:38 PM PST by 21stCenturion ("It's the Judges, Stupid !")
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To: Publius

Sign me up, please!


35 posted on 01/20/2010 12:53:43 PM PST by Texas Mulerider
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To: MamaTexan
Even the die-hard Federalists would be considered far right wing, today!

A very eye-opening (for me) moment was when someone (wish I could recall who it was!) replied to me that FR would have been a Federalist website.

I think that it's so difficult to match up things across time (modern conservatives who would have been against the Constitution back then are some of its most ardent defenders), but that was an excellent observation and probably why I sometimes find myself at odds with FReepers who are more big-government in their outlook.

Not to jump ahead of things, but I think that both sides were right. On one hand, having the Second Amendment written out might be the only reason the right hasn't been totally abrogated. But on the other hand, by enumerating rights, people have gotten the idea that only the Bill of Rights matters and that the Constitution "grants us rights."

36 posted on 01/20/2010 12:54:57 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Publius

Please keep me on the ping list.

What a great project! I swear the sky just turned blue since the last time I looked—which was right before reading your post. :-)

Thank you for your efforts.


37 posted on 01/20/2010 12:56:46 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: jan in Colorado

ping


38 posted on 01/20/2010 12:58:06 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Here I have to give public credit to Congressman Billybob. I saw a YouTube cut of him dressed at Ben Franklin, referring to the Federalist Papers as "the gospels according to James, John and Alexander." I felt as though I had been hit by lightning.

For years I had experienced difficulties with 18th Century prose, earning many a headache trying to wrap my brain around the prose of geniuses written in a bygone style. The idea of America's Civic Religion having its own bible made up of Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers made sense if one could treat the text as though it were truly from the pens of the editors of the King James edition.

You're right in that it is a lot of really hard work. But once the prose is separated into chapter-and-verse and the punctuation is modernized, the prose flows like water in a mountain brook, especially Hamilton's contributions.

I've come to see Hamilton and Madison as kindred spirits and in different ways.

Hamilton started his life in business and then "read law" to qualify for public office. His contributions come across like those of a brilliant business lawyer, which at that time he had become. If I wanted to invite someone to a dinner party who could entertain a whole room full of people, I'd ask Hamilton.

Madison, like myself, was something of a history geek, and he comes across like the earnest student of history. If I wanted to have someone over for a beer and a conversation, I'd ask Madison. (Hamilton probably wouldn't shut up, and Madison only drank in moderation.)

This is becoming a wonderful project for myself and Billthedrill.

39 posted on 01/20/2010 1:02:07 PM PST by Publius
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To: Loud Mime

Please add me


40 posted on 01/20/2010 1:09:40 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (How long before we are forced to refresh the Tree of Liberty? Sic semper tryannis)
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