Posted on 01/18/2010 12:39:53 PM PST by Ulysse
While OBAMA is trying to stay under the MSM spotlights with the CLINTOONS as the crisis is going on in HAITI the other issues are kept under the radars.
But yet the last earthquake is revealing the severe weaknesses of the Haitian society which is obviously a consequence of former repeated big political mistakes allowed by developped countries which could have helped getting over several crisis and undermining violence and corruption.
Those who paid attention to HAITI's problems in the last decades generally know that ARISTIDE ,a former catholic priest,was a violent marxist activist pretending to defend poor people...When he took the power after dubious elections he went on using violence against opponent and appeared as a croock. However Bill CLINTON helped him to stay in charge when he was more and more contested
I can’t give chapter and verse but I recall reading about a whole slew of Clinton cronies who got exclusive no-bid contracts with the Aristide regime after Bill re-installed him on his throne in ‘94.
Then there are the more lurid rumors that Aristide was Clinton’s personal juju priest and involved him and Hilary in several spectacular blood rites...
It was after all, Aristide who repudiated Catholicism and proclaimed Voodoo to be Haiti’s official religion.
***However Bill CLINTON helped him to stay in charge when he was more and more contested***
The Black caucus in the congress forced Clinton into this. In order to keep their votes for Clinton’s assault rifle ban they forced him to help Aristide.
No help for Haiti, no Black votes for the assault rifle ban.
Raoul Cedras was a good man who may have been able to save Haiti.
Aristide - ain’t that the psychotic who used to talk about how he loved to “necklace” his opponents - put tires around their necks, fill the tire with gasoline, and light it afire - he loved the smell of the burning gas, he said - and the US tried to help keep him in power via Bill Clinton - I’m so proud......
OT/re: Team Rubicon
BTW, if anyone has contacts in DC to get supplies to PAP Haiti, send it to me:
http://badgerjake.blogspot.com/
It is less than 40 miles fron PaP to Jiminar in the DR.
Why isnt DR taking these people?
There is no way that we should be flying then to Florida.
It is less than 40 miles fron PaP to Jiminar in the DR.
Why isnt DR taking these people?
There is no way that we should be flying them to Florida.
Didn’t know the history of Haiti/Aristide but I did wonder if somehow the Haitians connect the Clintons, especially Bill, with the corrupt government there.
They probably want an end to the horrible govt and conditions there and Billy Boy hasn’t helped a bit. Maybe hurt them by sustaining the status quo. Why should they trust his wife? Or the US in general if all this is true?
Now 0bama is sending in thousands of troops, which he probably should, but he will look just as evil as - horrors - George W Bush as an imperial occupying force.
Presidentin’ is just harder than it looks, eh zer0?
The Haitian people have a deep and abiding hatred of the Clintons. They returned Aristide to power after he was overthrown by a people’s movement headed up by the military.
The Clintons destroyed the entire economy of Haiti by blockading all trade. This had the effect of reducing the Haitian economy by 90% literally overnight.
The Marxist, Aristide, was returned to power. He terminated the military and created a 5th column personal security force that slaughtered his political opponents.
It took another 5 years for the people to overthrow Aristide again. Now Clinton is once again seeking this tyrant’s return.
Wow. Thank you very much for this history. It’s funny, but I didn’t know any of this but I just got the feeling that there was something terribly wrong in how both Clintons were reacting - or not reacting - to this based on their respective formal positions.
The Clintons have done untold harm to many, many people. This is just one ripple in the tsunami.
The DR actually respects their borders.
Haiti: Victim of Clintons Old Black Magic By: Lowell Ponte
FrontPageMagazine.com | Friday, February 20, 2004
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Excerpt:
After Aristide was removed by a military coup in 1991, President Bill Clinton in 1994 sent 20,000 U.S. troops to Haiti to restore to power this former Roman Catholic Priest and advocate for Leftist Liberation Theology who once called Cuban Marxist dictator Fidel Castro his greatest personal hero.
There is frankly no enthusiasm for sending armed U.S. troops to secure Aristides presidency again, said Secretary of State Colin Powell on Tuesday. As of Thursday, the United States had announced plans to send only a handful of troops to secure our Embassy there. The French Government offered tentative assistance from 4,000 troops on nearby Caribbean islands that it said were trained as humanitarian peacekeepers.
But forces may be in play that are both deeper and darker than what the international press is reporting. We might be witnessing a struggle of principalities and powers.
These sinister forces trace their roots to Haitis origin as an independent nation. And those roots may have entangled Bill Clinton and even Democratic Presidential frontrunner Senator John F. Kerry in strange and twisted ways.
*snip*
After the coup deposed him in 1991, exiled John-Bertrand Aristide took up residence in Washington, D.C. Looking for political help to restore his power, he reportedly connected with the inner circle of soon-to-be Democratic Presidential candidate Bill Clinton.
Aristide, according to historian Joel A. Ruth, reportedly supplied Clinton with a Voodoo sorcerer. This sorcerer, according to the Haitian media, gave Clinton magical advice on how to run his campaign. (One piece of advice that Clinton reportedly followed: not to change his underwear during the final week of the 1992 race.)
The sorcerer also reportedly, in exchange for a large sum of money, cast a wanga (malediction) spell on Clintons rival, incumbent President George H.W. Bush, by manipulating a doll made in the presidents image.
During a March 31, 1995 visit to Haiti under Aristides restored rule, Clinton according to the Haiti Observateur newspaper took part in a Voodoo initiation ceremony intended to keep him impervious to Republican attacks and to guarantee his re-election.
One account, notes Ruth, related that Aristide dedicated the ceremonial site prior to Clintons arrival with the blood of a newborn infant in gratitute to the gods whom he believes allowed his return to power.
Earlier in 1995, the defrocked priest Jean-Bertrand Aristide formally renounced his Roman Catholic faith and publicly announced that he was returning to the Voodoo faith of his ancestors.
In July 1995 Aristide held a Voodoo Congress at Haitis National Palace. The 300 attendees included sorcerers and bocors (those who practice black magic), wrote Ruth, including leaders of the dreaded Bizango Cult, which practices zombification and human sacrifice.
[Scientists have documented the use of poison from the Caribbean puffer fish by Haitian witch doctors as a way to simulate death and then, in smaller doses, to turn victims dug up from their graves into the living dead, called zombies in Haitis Voodoo tradition.]
Voodoo, Aristide said in his speech to congress attendees, is one of the great religions of the world alongside Christianity, Islam and Judaism. He announced the funding of a national Voodoo temple, doubtless to be built with U.S. taxpayer aid dollars via the Clinton Administration.
One of Aristides later objectives would be the shipping of Haitians to the United States, especially to Florida shores 600 miles away where they could embarrass the states Republicans.
Senator John F. Kerry (D.-Mass.) might have shared Aristides motives when, in 1998, he co-sponsored a bill that resulted in amnesty for an estimated 125,000 Haitians who had been given temporary asylum before 1996 because they were fleeing the chaos, terror and poverty caused largely by Aristide.
*snip*
Aristides response to critics of his high-handed behavior has long been violence and terror. He has had followers lay their machetes on his altar and then name their enemies.
Aristide has also endorsed necklacing of the kind widely practiced in South Africa by Winnie Mandela. It consists of seizing a victim, forcing an automobile tire filled with gasoline down over their head and shoulders, and then setting the tire and gasoline on fire.
What a beautiful tool! It smells good. And wherever you go, you want to smell it, Aristide said of the necklacing of his critics on September 27, 1991, as witnessed and reported by Associated Press.
Note the above date. Despite knowing of Aristides penchant for necklacing critics, and despite knowing that a CIA psychological profile had identified Aristide as a psychopath, President Bill Clinton three years later put at risk 20,000 of Americas most elite troops to remove a pro-American Haitian government in order to re-install this murdering psychopath Jean-Bertrand Aristide as President of Haiti.
He is compared now with Francois Papa Doc Duvalier, who set up his Tontons-Macoute gestapo-like police to harass, jail and kill his opponents, wrote Raymond Joseph, an editor of Haiti Observateur. Mr. Aristides goons are called chimeres (chimeras) and have turned Haiti into a killing field.
Aristide, who claims to be a prophet, a messiah, reportedly was bathed in November [2000] in the blood of a dead Haitian by voodoo priestess Marie-Anne Auguste, commonly known as So An, wrote Yves A. Isidor, who teaches at the University of Massachusetts-Dartmouth.
The purpose of [this blood] bathing said a senior member of Aristides Lavalas Family Party, wrote Isidor, was in an effort to put a curse on then-U.S. Rep[ublican] presidential candidate George W. Bush . His Dem[ocratic] rival, U.S. Vice President Albert Gore would, hopefully, emerge as the winner of the November election. But Aristides voodoo magic could not make a winner of Zombie-like Gore as it helped do for Clinton.
In Haiti this megalomaniac President Aristide has failed by every measure. He has not improved the national standard of living. He has not united the nation. And instead of entrenching democracy, he has destroyed it.
Aristides gangs of followers have killed journalists critical of his regime and gone unpunished. Five Christian missionaries have been murdered, apparently by voodoo adherents. In recent weeks he and his thugs have stopped political opponents from holding public marches or demonstrations against him.
wow...
thanks for finding (!) and posting that.
bump. ? post that by itself?
Another FReeper found and posted it the other day. I should have included him for the credit. Good find on the old thread. I just bumped it.
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