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Should Tim Geithner be indicted?
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Posted on 01/14/2010 11:07:12 AM PST by Jim Robinson

The emails obtained by Cong. Darryl Issa (R-CA), which I have seen and reviewed, reveal a conspiracy among lawyers for AIG and the NY Fed to conceal from the SEC the nature and extent of AIG’s true indebtedness and its stated intention to pay certain vendors (among them the publicly-hated Goldman Sachs) one hundred cents on the dollar. While I have not heard any defense of this nefarious informal agreement, it does raise serious concerns. These emails are now to be the subject of scheduled hearings in the House and now requested hearings in the Senate.

It is a federal crime to falsify documents involved in a loan from a federally-insured bank, unless the matter was immaterial to the loan. Thus, if one intentionally gave a false address on an application to purchase a $1000 savings bond, one could be prosecuted; but if one inadvertently left off a zip code, a prosecution would be highly unlikely. This was a case involving a revolving movement of nearly $185 billions between and among the Treasury, the NY Fed, JPMorgan Chase, and AIG. Leaving out the name, amount, and intended payment to a creditor of $13 billions would surely satisfy the material misrepresentation requirement of the statute that criminalizes such omissions. The fact that “the government told me to do it” is not only not a defense, but may (and should) implicate whoever in the government counseled in favor of such omissions.

Though we do not know, and I have not seen evidence of, any personal knowledge of any of this by the senior official at the NY Fed at the time, current Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, it is difficult to believe that he would not have known of any of this. It is clear that senior personnel in the legal department of the NY Fed did know of it. The lawyers would no doubt say, in their own defense, that they were the bank’s lawyers, they and the bank knew of AIG’s intentions with respect to Goldman Sachs, and thus that fact did not need to have been in writing. Since the Fed knew well where its money was going, there was no harm and thus no foul. Unfortunately for the Fed’s lawyers and AIG’s lawyers and executives, the surreptitious revelation through word of mouth of that which the law requires to be stated in writing does not fulfill the statutory requirements.

Could it be that the single largest federal bailout in history was procured by fraud--fraud in which the feds themselves participated--and the government actually counseled IN FAVOR OF CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR? Only in America. But don’t hold your breath expecting any federal prosecutions here. We might, however, just see an affirmation of federalism; since the acts complained of here--alleged fraud in the procurement of a loan--are a violation of New York State law as well as federal law, and the conspiracy--if such it was--occurred here in New York, and since New York has a politically ambitious Attorney General who wants to live in the Governor’s Mansion (where he once resided as a child), who doesn’t give a hoot what the feds think, he just might seek some state indictments of federal officials.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aig; bailouts; bubblemafia; corruption; geithner; goldman; goldmansachs; judgenapolitano; wallstreet
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To: Jim Robinson

shouldn’t most of the folks in DC be indicted?


21 posted on 01/14/2010 11:26:50 AM PST by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: ExcursionGuy84

“Should waterfowl hunters use 12-ga. #7-1/2 shot on Mallards?”

I prefer 6 or 4 shot for the greenheads.


22 posted on 01/14/2010 11:27:23 AM PST by AmericanHunter
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To: FromLori; blam; muawiyah; SunkenCiv; Bob J; mkjessup; MestaMachine; Moe Tzadik; Nachum; DvdMom; ...

*ping*


23 posted on 01/14/2010 11:28:54 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: SatinDoll

No. Turbo Tim gets indicted. And either cops a deal or actually does a Club Fed.

Dodd, if Turbo Tim leaves Treasury, is as damaged (then) as Geithner.

They have to circle the wagons...because too many of them are linked together (and will fall together).


24 posted on 01/14/2010 11:29:42 AM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (BOOM! Taste my nightstick! Sarah, making Shatner sound Shakespearean.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Geithner? how about inditing ALL the 0 cronies in his administration.


25 posted on 01/14/2010 11:29:47 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: ExcursionGuy84
Should waterfowl hunters use 12-ga. #7-1/2 shot on Mallerds?

Actually no. A "mallerd" would prolly require a #4 shot, 3 inch shell. A #7-1/2 would be more appropriate fer "quale".
26 posted on 01/14/2010 11:31:11 AM PST by Dewey Revoltnow
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To: Jim Robinson

With out a doubt. Mish at global economic analysis agrees with you!!!!


27 posted on 01/14/2010 11:31:23 AM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Jim Robinson

He should have been indicted for tax evasion. I have been using Turbotax for the better part of 20 years and it’s beyond me how one could engage in his “oversight” given the error checks and prompts integral to the software.


28 posted on 01/14/2010 11:32:33 AM PST by freespirited (People talk about "too big to fail." Our government is too big to succeed. --Chris Chocola)
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To: Jim Robinson

Hell, indict away! It’s not like he’d ever be prosecuted.


29 posted on 01/14/2010 11:33:52 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Dewey Revoltnow

I stand corrected. Now I know what I was doing wrong last year in the Duck Hunt season.


30 posted on 01/14/2010 11:49:06 AM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: Jim Robinson

Yes along with some others.


31 posted on 01/14/2010 11:54:24 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Jim Robinson

I called up Issa’s office today and thanked them for doing yeoman’s work in pointing out the corruption “The District of Criminals” have bestowed upon us


32 posted on 01/14/2010 11:58:10 AM PST by roylll
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To: Dewey Revoltnow

“Actually no. A “mallerd” would prolly require a #4 shot, 3 inch shell. A #7-1/2 would be more appropriate fer “quale”.

Are you series? Quale spelt potatoe wrong, but he shouldn’t be shot fer it.


33 posted on 01/14/2010 11:59:45 AM PST by jessduntno ("The miners lock and load like the redblooded redneck NRA supporters they are." - Avatar script)
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To: Jim Robinson

Keep the information for the next Congress, because Democrats and corruption are synonymous. They would never do anything to hurt one of their own. It’s a thugocracy.


34 posted on 01/14/2010 12:16:00 PM PST by pallis
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To: Jim Robinson

Interesting that Bambi is just now touting a new tax on those evil banks and how he must get his money back.


35 posted on 01/14/2010 1:20:34 PM PST by crazyshrink (Barack Hussein Obama...... "The Rush to Communism")
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To: Jim Robinson
Nah, I'd rather see

tar.....feathers.....rail.....

36 posted on 01/14/2010 1:25:07 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: ExcursionGuy84

I didn’t know there were any “Mallerd Fillmores” left.


37 posted on 01/14/2010 4:02:27 PM PST by razorback-bert (Just call me mohhamed-bert when I am flying.)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

“Turbo Tim gets indicted...”

Oh, from your lips to God’s ear! But with this DOJ I can’t imagine it happening, know what I mean?


38 posted on 01/14/2010 4:39:35 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: hennie pennie; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

Thanks hennie pennie. I’m not a big fan of expensive trials for stuff like this, hint hint.


39 posted on 01/14/2010 4:42:00 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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