Posted on 01/08/2010 10:44:54 AM PST by rocketpreacher
Who is consistently advocating for the Native Americans? No one! Why? Why is it that during the 1900's all other races in the United States were given equal rights? Why is the only face not included in President Obama's Cabinet one from a Native American Tribe? The Native Americans continue to stand apart from real help. They continue in endless litigation processes before the U.S. Congress and U.S. Senate. This whitepaper, written as a partial requirement in a Master's Degree program, was also written to help create a case for civil society by advocating for real justice on behalf of the Native Americans. It was also written to encourage philanthropic efforts on their behalf.
“If you were a stone age people that was merely a tribe of people instead of being an actual country like a Sweden or Egypt or Peru, then you would probably resist at first just like you did when other tribes tried to move in, or the way they resisted you when you were taking their land from them.”
I was refering
to this section of your post,ansell2.
The history I told was to explain to you that my ancestors weren’t exactly “stoneage” people
I don’t think I have been in the least sarcastic with any of my posts so I don’t understand the reason for yours....
“My ancestors worked very hard to accept the Europeans that came here...
Oconstata, Attakullakulla, and five other elders of the Ani-yun-wiya spent a year in England meeting with the King and other European leaders in the early 1700s...
Agreements were worked out and they returned...
Yet more and more was taken...Look up the Wautauga Convention and Nolichuckey Jack (John Sevier)
Check out the Removal by Andrew Jackson...who, BTW, won the battle of Horseshoe Bend in the Creek Indian War BECAUSE of the Ani-yun-wiya who came to his aid...”
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Absolutely true, on all counts.
More from the book:
Chapter 2 Law, Law Understood, Law Executed
“The Cherokee National Council, on November 12, 1819 was held at New Echota, Cherokee Nation, where now exists modern day Northwest Georgia. They resolved that any white man who should marry a Cherokee woman is required to be married legally by a minister of the Gospel or some other legally authorized person and obtain a legal license from the national clerk. During this time, the Cherokee often took ‘American’ names and named their children after founding fathers and ancient world heroes who they particularly admired. The tribe functioned under a constitutional form of government.
No society has been known to make such a dramatic cultural shift as the Cherokee accomplished in Northern Georgia between 1794 and 1825. During this time they not only created and learned to read and write their own language, but learned English as well. They not only converted, voluntarily bringing in many of the missionaries themselves, but embraced the practice of Christianity. These progressive Cherokees simply elected not only to accept ‘the white man’s ways’, but to be better at it than anyone. Political powers of the time led by President Andrew Jackson did not let the Cherokee progress stop his Indian removal act of 1830.
Elias Boudinot, son of OOWatee and brother of Stand Watie, had been educated at a school established by the American Board of Commissioners for Foreign Missions at Cornwall, Connecticut. Here he took the name of a rich colonial benefactor, a citizen of New Jersey and a friend of George Washington who had served as a president of the Continental Congress.”
Chapter8 War and more war
“To understand the dynamics of the players and the loyalties they held at this less known battle at Hominy Creek, we have to return to another conflict in the 1814 Battle of Horseshoe Bend. In the war of 1812, the Cherokee supported the United States government against England. On March 27th, Cherokee leader, The Ridge with eight hundred volunteers fought the Creeks to submission beside General Andrew Jackson and his militia. A Cherokee brave, Junaluska, was said to have saved Jackson’s life from the knife of a Creek during battle and the title of ‘Major’ was bestowed to Chief Ridge by Jackson.”
Chapter 3 The Trail where they cried
“The legendary “Trail” was actually a series of land routes and water routes Some went only by land, others only by water. Some combined the two. Because of the large numbers traversing the same landscape over such a short period of time during severe drought, vegetation was scare to feed the livestock and beasts of burden, making alternate routes necessary. Most routes covered nine hundred to one thousand miles. Within a decade of passage of the Indian Removal Act of 1830, it is estimated sixty thousand Indians, African slaves, white spouses and missionaries crossed through North West Arkansas. Sixteen thousand were Cherokee as well as other tribes from Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, North Carolina, and Tennessee.
The Bell Contingent managed to shorten their journey to only seven hundred miles, taking advantage of military roads and Jack Bell’s years of scouting and trading between the old nation and their new lands. Along with them from the Army was Lieutenant Edward Deas, who was well known to the Indians and allowed the Bells to oversee the trip. The group led by Cherokee John Benge took a bit longer route north of the Bell Route, but also faired better than the majority who were transferred entirely by the Army.
According to the dates in her dairy, Mrs. Releaf Mason of Little Rock observed the Bell Contingency nearing the end of it’s journey. On December 13, 1838 she wrote, “Heard of the unexpected death of a young lady of the Cherokee Nation.” A few days later she notes, “When we came to the river our horses took fright at some Indians encamped near the road and came very near precipitating us into the stream.” Her December 18th entry reflects, “Today the Indians, amounting to 700 passed off, which for several days have been encamped near us. Many of them very interesting, some Christians.”
http://jesusweptanamericanstory.blogspot.com/
PS! Don’t buy the book from the website, I have a special at cost offer for freepers.
They were at the level of still using stone tools.
Did you know there is a rose called the Cherokee Rose???
It has only seven petals...each representing one of the seven clans of the Ani-yun-wiya...
It is rumored to only grow along the trails used during the removal...Legend has that it was sprouted by the tears of the Ani-yun-wiya....
90% of the Indians do want left alone to keep their society intact, they don't want to become White People; but they do have an intense anger at what they have had stolen from them over the last 100 years by our government. Govt took all their kids off them, wouldn't give them back until they give up the land. Once the govt got the Indians and all theiir cousins to move into villages, not small bands that seasonally had fish camps, hunting camps, lands that they guarded on threat of death from other Indians & especially Whites; they lost their rights to the land. This happened up through the 1950's.
You will always see Whites who prey on Indians over the govt money & grants. Our village finally fired a local preacher & his wife who have been robbing the Indians blind on grant money, supposed to be an accounting but I doubt it will occur. You always have crooked white lawyers & native leaders who are blinded by the big bucks too.
Best thing that could be done is to give back alot of the BLM, govt, park lands to villages, let the Indians run fish & game ect,be better off over long term. All kinds of anger over how they lost the land as they didn't have political or financial where-with-all to stop it back then.
Alot of the alcohol problems & related problems are a direct result of the hopelessness & pain and no future improvement seen in the cards. Just more govt sponsered genocide thru BIA, and bits of govt money.
Just remember, they ain't White People, don't even think like we do; don't judge them and expect them to live and aspire to what we think is success. Greed is viewed somewhat like child abuse to most the Indians I know.
Don't mean to go on, guess I'd think like most others do too if I hadn't lived around them.
“, please dont go down the liberal path of black and womens history where you start telling us the names of individuals that did wondrous things like starting a newspaper or choosing the colors for traffic lights.”
Ansel12, don’t start with what someone should or shouldn’t post. What’s the matter? Are you terrified you might actually learn some REAL history that might not fit your agenda?
It wasn’t meant as sarcasm, it said just what it was meant to say.
The Oneidas were the only tribe that fought on OUR side during the RevWar...just to set the record straight.
You need to do a little research and, if you can find time, visit the Qualla reservation in North Carolina stay away from the touristy traps and see the historical aspects there...You may learn a lot...
“Did you know there is a rose called the Cherokee Rose???”
Are you sure you haven’t read my book? lol I guess we’ve just lived that history, eh? ( my family is Deer Clan, by the way)
” “Did you ever hear about the Legend of the Cherokee Rose, young lady?” Daisy asked.
“No, Ma’am, but I’d like to hear it, if you’d like to tell me”.
“Well, they say wild, pure white, single petal roses grow all along de sides of de roads all dat long way from the old territory to this ‘un. Lots of unmarked graves on that road, too. The army wouldn’t stop long enough for proper buryin’. Dat rose has a bright gold center, said to be the gold taken from the Cherokees in the nation. The Cherokees grew dat flower so much it was named the Georgia state flower. Dey brought the seeds with ‘em and planted ‘em on the way to the new territory and watered ‘em with the tears dat all dem young girls cried. Now dat Cherokee Rose is all over this country too. So when you see beautiful white roses with a gold middle climbing high early in the spring, you know where it came from.”
I am Bird Clan...
My grandmother taught me a lot about our history and I have read quite a bit...I am from E Tenn and grew up near the Little Tennessee river where several of the old towns were located...
I am well read on indian history, it would be better if you would simply accept my own posts and quit trying to place me into a different conversation.
“Look up George Gist...better known as Sequoyah...He created the ONLY alphabet and written language of the native people.”
Sequoyah did develop the alphabet, but iirc, the Cherokee Phoenix actually was started a bit later after Sequoyah left the old territory, published both in English and Cherokee and was read widely in Europe and New England. Did you know there are photo transcripts of it available on line now? VERY interesting. Here’s a bit from the book.
“An 1832 Edition of the Cherokee Phoenix Newspaper tells of the arrest of the twenty-six year year old son of John Bell, Jr. and Charlotte Adair. He was also the grandson of John Bell, Scottish immigrant and his Cherokee wife. For decades, three generations of this family had occupied their homes in Georgia as did their native ancestors before that.
“We understand on Wednesday morning Mr. John A. Bell of Coosewaytee was arrested by a detachment of the Georgia Guard. Mr. B. is a native. What the charge was we are unable to say; and in fact it is impossible to know, for these law officers go to work without a written precept.”
Subsequent issues of The Phoenix contain letters from other citizens stating that weeks later Bell and others had not been charged, but were still held in ‘custody’, not allowed representation or visitation. No ‘crime’ was necessary. The only prerequisite was having something the ‘powers that be’ of Georgia wanted or to be eloquent and brave enough to speak against them. Such treatment would explain why Cherokees like John Adair Bell signed the Treaty of New Echota in December of 1835 and voted to accept the offer by the U.S. Government to remove voluntarily beyond the Mississippi. To escape living with the daily persecution by the State of Georgia Militia and its citizens must have seemed logical. To them, it was a choice of having life and home somewhere with dignity or to lose it all.
Some historians contend Congressman David Crockett’s political career ended because of his support for the Cherokee against President Jackson’s removal plans. Crockett explains his position in 1834:
“.......His famous, or rather I should say infamous, Indian bill was brought forward, and I opposed it from the purest motives in the world. Several of my colleagues got around me, and told me how well they loved me, and that I was ruining myself. They said this was a favourite measure of the president, and I ought to go for it. I told them I believed it was a wicked, unjust measure, and that I should go against it, let the cost to myself be what it might; that I was willing to go with General Jackson in everything that I believed was honest and right; but further than this I wouldn’t go for him, or any other man in the whole creation.
I voted against this Indian bill, and my conscience yet tells me that I gave a good honest vote, and that I believe will not make me ashamed in the day of judgment.”
AuntB I will handle my own posting, don’t start with that personal stuff that you like to get into.
A very good book is “Valley So Wild” by Carson Brewer...
It is a history of the Little Tennessee River all the way from N Georgia to the joining with the Tennessee River.
In fact, the name of the state is a bastardization of the Ani-yun-wiya word Tenasi...:)
Thank you, Boonie. I’ll look it up.
Fine. Practice what you preach.
The story of Sequoyah and the Cherokee is told in a multimedia presentation at the Sequoyah Birthplace Museum in Vonore, Tennessee, on Lake Tellico not far from the actual site of the Gist home. The museum and gift shop are open every day except Thanksgiving and Christmas.
This museum is located about two miles downriver from where I was raised...:)
I don’t believe I am required to ACCEPT something that which I don’t believe to be accurate...
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