Utes?
Posted on 01/08/2010 10:44:54 AM PST by rocketpreacher
Who is consistently advocating for the Native Americans? No one! Why? Why is it that during the 1900's all other races in the United States were given equal rights? Why is the only face not included in President Obama's Cabinet one from a Native American Tribe? The Native Americans continue to stand apart from real help. They continue in endless litigation processes before the U.S. Congress and U.S. Senate. This whitepaper, written as a partial requirement in a Master's Degree program, was also written to help create a case for civil society by advocating for real justice on behalf of the Native Americans. It was also written to encourage philanthropic efforts on their behalf.
James Watt was correct. The tribal system is the engine of indian poverty. It’s a relic of the 1800s. Reservations need to be broken up save for a SMALL area for cultural reasons. The tribe should collectively own no more than a city does inside it’s city limits.
If indians AS INDIVIDUALS owned their own houses, property, fields, and minerals,,,and could sell them to ANYONE, they would be wealthy. Their poverty is self inflicted under the guise of culture. Thats their choice to make,, but don’t come to me when culture impoverishes.
The tribal system treats individual indians as children. And the mere fact that one can run home to the res when life gets tough, acts as an anchor to indian achievement. Americans of Euro descent have nowhere to run back to where they will be given a place to live. It’s quite an incentive.
If you were a stone age people that was merely a tribe of people instead of being an actual country like a Sweden or Egypt or Peru, then you would probably resist at first just like you did when other tribes tried to move in, or the way they resisted you when you were taking their land from them.
In the end you would deal with the daily reality of Indian life for thousands of years, you took if you were stronger, and you abandoned when you were weaker.
“With this in mind, I ask you...If China or Russia or any other country for that matter landed on our shores to take over...would you fight them? Would you try to adapt? Would you slowly give up where you lived and what you had experienced for your lifetime?”
But Boonie, no ‘country’ invaded the Indians. It was done a bit at a time, one group of immigrants at a time, until the Indian was overwhelmed, his culture and beliefs destroyed, his land taken. It took decades. History IS repeating itself. We are the current indigenous tribe. Granted, it’s not being done at the point of a military gun as was done to our Cherokee ancestors, yet.
I wouldn’t know where to look it up, but wasn’t recognition of the Lumbees blocked by the other native nations? I read somewhere that if the Lumbees were recognized, there would be more of them than all the other native peoples combined.
One may even become "first dude" in 2012.
Utes?
“James Watt was correct. The tribal system is the engine of indian poverty. It’s a relic of the 1800s. Reservations need to be broken up save for a SMALL area for cultural reasons. The tribe should collectively own no more than a city does inside it’s city limits.”
Agreed. The government has learned one thing. Poor, uneducated, victimmentality folks are easier to control...bribes, etc. In fact, in the 1800’s, some Indians saw it and wanted nothing more than to become a US constitutional state with rights of any other ‘Americans’.
They wanted equality. Today’s tribes don’t, they want handouts and pity.
You know what,, and God love em. But it’s way obvious. Chinese in the west were treated horribly. But they were abandoned. Today they prosper.
If an indian family could own property instead of holding in common, they could build equity, they could live the American dream. They are denied the single greatest engine of wealth, home ownership.
The res should be large enough for cultural preservation. Not to dominate all the real estate. Tribal governments are corrupt, and the Feds treat them like children. The system was designed in the 1870s to imprison and control a population an keep them out of mainstream society. Big surprise, it’s doing PRECISELY that.
The sad thing though, is that most indian activists push for more extreme journeys into “ward” status.
The Lumbees are recognized now...They are a small tribe in the sandhills of central North Carolina...
No, they aren’t more than all others combined...
“I wouldn’t know where to look it up, but wasn’t recognition of the Lumbees blocked by the other native nations?”
Actually that happened often. My family settled in Texas, but the Cherokee tribe/US government has always refused to recognize them. During the Dawes census rolls near the turn of the century, they had to go back to Oklahoma to live to be counted as Cherokee. Tribal governments are among the worst, most corrupt on earth.
And i recently heard an 80 year old Texan say something that stopped me cold. He commented on the illegal Mexican flood, saying something along the lines of how it is nothing more than the resurgence of the Indians. (Mexican culture being basically almost nothing but American Indian)
Interesting view.
Thanks for the clarification. I just know that if you go to Lumberton, you can’t swing a cat without hitting someone named Oxendine or Locklear.
My ancestors worked very hard to accept the Europeans that came here...
Oconstata, Attakullakulla, and five other elders of the Ani-yun-wiya spent a year in England meeting with the King and other European leaders in the early 1700’s...
Agreements were worked out and they returned...
Yet more and more was taken...Look up the Wautauga Convention and Nolichuckey Jack (John Sevier)
Check out the “Removal” by Andrew Jackson...who, BTW, won the battle of Horseshoe Bend in the Creek Indian War BECAUSE of the Ani-yun-wiya who came to his aid...
You are very welcome...:)
Desrt Rhino....If an indian family could own property instead of holding in common, they could build equity, they could live the American dream. They are denied the single greatest engine of wealth, home ownership———
Check out an Ani-yun-wiya man named Major Ridge...He OWNED a large plantation in Georgia as did several other Ani-yun-wiya families...
Andrew Jackson took their homes and lands during the “Removal”
Look up George Gist...better known as Sequoyah...He created the ONLY alphabet and written language of the native people.
He started a newspaper called the Phoenix for my ancestors...
“And i recently heard an 80 year old Texan say something that stopped me cold. He commented on the illegal Mexican flood, saying something along the lines of how it is nothing more than the resurgence of the Indians. (Mexican culture being basically almost nothing but American Indian)
Interesting view.”
Interesting, but wrong. The reconquista crowd would like you to believe that Mexicans and USA Indians were ‘all the same’. In the 1800’s, when my relatives lived at Mt. Tabor, Rusk county, Texas, they had plantations,
beautiful homes,were wealthy & Christian, were educated better than most Americans and wanted nothing but to be under the laws of the Constitution like anyone else in this nation.
In another post, you said: “If an indian family could own property instead of holding in common, they could build equity, they could live the American dream. They are denied the single greatest engine of wealth, home ownership.”
Absolutely correct! One group of Cherokees tried for decades to do away with the tribal land system, and most of them were killed for it...by other Cherokees.
From the book, “Jesus Wept” An American Story, Chapt. 16
“Boudinot and Bell were leading advocates for the abolition of the tribal land system of the Indians. They and others wished to have the lands owned in severalty, which is ownership of real property by an individual as an individual; the same right to property as other Americans. They also championed the establishment of United States Courts in Indian Territory, and the abandonment of the tribal governments.
What is a Mexican but an American Indian. They are one and the same.
That has nothing to do with my post, please don’t go down the liberal path of black and women’s history where you start telling us the names of individuals that did wondrous things like starting a newspaper or choosing the colors for traffic lights.
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