BURNIN' DOWN THE TENT!!!
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Posted on 01/08/2010 6:18:55 AM PST by MestaMachine
BURNIN' DOWN THE TENT!!!
Do we want action? Yes, we do!!!
Are we willing to take a giant step forward and create a central action site that allows us to see at a glance every single state’s candidates for national office, House and Senate, to separate the wheat from the chaff? That is our hope. We want to spend our money, our time, and our votes wisely. Our time is JUST as valuable as the money we spend.
The goal is to take back and take over the GOP, or move it out of the way, and elect conservatives to every office we can affect whether the RNC likes it or not.
To do this, we need a clearinghouse and a plan of action that encompasses all 50 states in ONE place. That place is Free Republic. THIS is where we nationalize the 2010 election cycle and choose where our money and our time is spent. The genius of Free Republic is that it already has the 50 state message boards. We don’t have to “google” our way through hundreds of candidates in individual states to find out who is who doing what. It’s already here, just not out in the public eye. This will change that.
I, and others, have repeatedly asked Freepers to present workable ideas with this goal in mind, and there have been many, but the two I am going to post here are comprehensive, have been well thought out over a long period of time, and the magic of it is that it has never been tried before...and THAT is precisely why it will work.
Freeper blueyon, (the originator of RINO FREE AMERICA PROJECT on FaceBook,) and I have worked on the idea to have each state message board create individual STATE BY STATE threads on the forum which presents information ONLY about their national congressional candidates.
We need their candidates’ names, pictures, platforms, voting records, (if applicable,) backgrounds, opinions, newslinks, statements, and whatever other information might be available including links to candidate’s’ websites if they exist.
The state message boards are full of much of this information and no one knows local politics like the locals. It’s time to make local politics national, and here is where we do it. Fifty states, fifty threads, ALL politics will be Free Republic Local politics.
Freepers have the best researchers in the business. We need that right here, right now if we are going to burn down the RINO tent and do it effectively. They will NOT be allowed to silence us again.
Those threads will be information only. Conservative candidates will be flagged and RINOs will be tagged. Anyone who wishes to debate or discuss individual candidates can start a separate thread for that here, AND/OR on the RINO FREE discussion board on FaceBook as well.
I expect these threads to become lengthy, so be sure to add the state and candidate's name as keywords.
The SECOND part of this plan is a NATIONAL strategy for accomplishing our goal once we have singled out the candidates we choose to support and gather THOSE candidates on to ONE thread. It is our intent to coordinate efforts with the National Tea Party Movement and have them link to our information as well as share whatever info they might have that we don’t...although I find that next to impossible knowing Freepers. There just might be tidbits of inside information we might not have access to, so contributions from outside Freeperdom will be researched by us FOR us and we will do well not to post rumor or inuendo if we have no proof.
The National Action plan is the sole hard work of a longtime Freeper who has asked to remain anonymous. It is his work and since he first sent it to me, he has updated it several times for the better. I neither take, nor deserve, any credit for it whatsover, and only on that basis did I accept the invitation to present it as I saw fit.
I have opted to make only the smallest changes to his ideas as they seem to me to be the stepstones of the future. However he did specifically ask that any constructive criticisms or additional ideas be sought and wants it known that this is a foundation we can build on. He has added reasons, including some from Scripture, for these ideas which are included in the body of information presented below. Many of you will find them relevant. Those who don’t will still find the ideas themselves worth your time. I am awed by the effort put forth here which is why I have left it pretty much in tact with minimal edits. I think you will be as well.
With that said, and without further adieu, continue on and see what ideas suit you best.
Islam is not a religion, it is a form of tyranny
Cicero, your point is well taken. I did not omit it from what the author wrote because this is his work, not mine. It was his work and I gratefully accepted it because it was obviously a labor of love for this country and these are some excellent starting points. NO ONE ELSE has come up with anything that is remotely this comprehensive. He did his research and I appreciate it very much.
I am in favor of getting the government AND the teacher’s union OUT of the pulic schools and restoring classical education that has been thrown to the curb. Our kids are propagandized. They do not know history at all. They know what the left wants them told.
American history and WORLD history MUST be taught faithfully. It isn’t. They know next to nothing about the Constitution or how the Founders arrived at their conclusions. The left has turned the Constitution on its ear. What the heck are “negative” rights? I don’t know.
Languages should be elective, and there should be an OFFERING of some of them. I also believe that Latin should be mandatory as it was when my mom was in school because it is our root language.
Our entire educational system has been usurped. This is one of the most important reasons WHY we MUST gain control of this country again. We are at war whether we call it that or not. That is what it is, and the left is willing to destroy everything our forefathers built to achieve their ends. They are succeeding beyond their wildest dreams.
WE need to be at least as dedicated to their demise as they are to ours.
What can YOU do to help? Do you belong to a Tea Party group? Are you a member of any Veterans organization? Can you evangelize Conservatism with as much fervor as the left evangelizes Socialism and Marxism? Can you bring people on board here to grow this army so we can win this war? Will you volunteer to start a state thread on the forum?
THAT is what we need.
They see that their “tent” is collapsing. They have sucked all the oxygen out of the Republican party and are imploding. Obviously we are not going to shut up. And just as obviously, Steele knows his time is up.
Thanks, and agreed.
If you want to argue religion, post it on a religion thread in the proper forum. I will NOT allow this thread to be hijacked and turned into a religious war. Stop it.
Thanks hennie pennie.
taking back what was ours to being with is a common goal we need to all band together on no matter what our other opinions are. Folks do not get caught up in each and every single word..the left wins when we do that, plus we become ineffective and lose focus of our mission (taking our country back). Please look at our goal and press on, we are taking names and getting organized, together we can be effective.
This looks like a big step in the right direction taking meaningful action.
Hmmmm ....
standing beside an interstate on-ramp during rush hour ...
holding a sign ...
something like “Restore the U.S. Constitution!” or “Congress SUCKS! Throw them ALL out!” or “Will work for LIBERTY!” or “Tea Party Patriot” or any of a hundred other messages!
Inexpensive, easy to do, gets the message out ... yeah! And a pocketful of business cards to hand out, with the Free Republic address ... YEAH!
I like it! I like it a lot!
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200 free. Design your own. I got some with the FR web address and drop them just everywhere.
You would be surprised how many people actually read them. Don't know how many sign up, but a few is better than none.
Hey, YOU were the one who dropped the religion bomb on this thread by suggesting that somehow it should be a tenet of whatever movement you are supposedly promoting on this forum to prohibit the building of Mosques and denying Religious Liberty to people. I made the statement that if throwing away the first Amendment is a tenet of your movement, then I want nothing to do with it.
Some posters, including you, challenged my LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL position by dragging Islamic doctrine into the mix attempting to justify the wholesale discrimination against one religious group on the basis of some teachings that some members of that religious group may or may not hold to. In response to one poster who asked me a bunch of what I felt were irrelevant religious questions which I have no intention of answering, I simply pointed out that Judeo-Christian tradition has some elements that we might find objectionable too.
I will repeat myself. If you think that the way to make America better is to ignore the First Amendment and start persecuting certain religions and preventing people from even building a place of worship, then you can count me out of your movement.
Your initial post on this thread suggests that Jim Robinson is sanctioning all that you post here, and somehow I think that may not be the case.
FWIW, I think we need to narrow our focus if we are going to change America and turn it back to its roots and we shouldn't be broadening our focus so that we drive away like minded people. IMHO our focus should be simply to return to our roots politically and that focus should be on weakening the Central Government and Strengthening State, Local and Community government with an emphasis on INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY. Much of what you have posted as your proposed platform for this movement TAKES AWAY LIBERTY from individuals and puts the power to take that liberty away in the very hands of the people that we don't want to have it.
So if someone wants to challenge me on this thread and they want to do it from a religious rather than a political standpoint, then I think the only person you have to blame for the thread not going the way you may have intended it is YOU!
So, FWIW, I will not be silenced by you on this thread. If Jim Rob or the Admin Moderator wants to shut me up and tell me to "Stop it" then I will be more than happy to do so, as it is their forum and they can choose to do as they please. And until THEY tell me to "Stop it" then I will continue to post my opinions on this thread or any other thread, and just because you started this thread does not mean that you own it.
I believe her idea is that Islam needs a “reformation” of sorts. I tend to agree because if you look at the sheer numbers, millions of people aren’t going to all of a sudden stop being muslim. So she is right in that Islam must change in order to change the people. Or there will be a war and untold numbers will die.
As I have previously stated...the author whose work is a list of IDEAS, not commands. I also made it very clear that I did not write it and did NOT change it because it is not MY work to change.
It is NOT stated as a TENET to this project. Those are HIS individual thoughts.
MY input is more centered on the State message boards and elections of CONSERVATIVES to office by nationalizing this election and making this a one stop shop for information related to Congressional candidates from every state.
You are being disingenuous when you pick one IDEA out of many and treat it as though it was the entire project set in stone.
Now, if you have nothing better to offer, I won’t repond anymore to this islam stuff because that is NOT the purpose of this thread.
I did offer up something. I told you the truth.
We don’t need more ideas.
We need to simplify and communicate a few of the ones you listed and eliminate the divisive ones.
Sorry if you don’t like my input.
I want and appreciate your input, Jedidah. Did you read the introduction to this thread? It IS narrow. The rest is -ideas- that people or groups might want to adopt as ways to win the culture war that is raging in this country and is so stated. Everywhere on FR, people are asking that question. HOW? These are some ways for HOW.
THIS is THE PLAN as I presented it:
Are we willing to take a giant step forward and create a central action site that allows us to see at a glance every single state’s candidates for national office, House and Senate, to separate the wheat from the chaff? That is our hope. We want to spend our money, our time, and our votes wisely. Our time is JUST as valuable as the money we spend.
The goal is to take back and take over the GOP, or move it out of the way, and elect conservatives to every office we can affect whether the RNC likes it or not.
To do this, we need a clearinghouse and a plan of action that encompasses all 50 states in ONE place. That place is Free Republic. THIS is where we nationalize the 2010 election cycle and choose where our money and our time is spent. The genius of Free Republic is that it already has the 50 state message boards. We don’t have to “google” our way through hundreds of candidates in individual states to find out who is who doing what. It’s already here, just not out in the public eye. This will change that.
I, and others, have repeatedly asked Freepers to present workable ideas with this goal in mind, and there have been many, but the two I am going to post here are comprehensive, have been well thought out over a long period of time, and the magic of it is that it has never been tried before...and THAT is precisely why it will work.
Freeper blueyon, (the originator of RINO FREE AMERICA PROJECT on FaceBook,) and I have worked on the idea to have each state message board create individual STATE BY STATE threads on the forum which presents information ONLY about their national congressional candidates.
We need their candidates’ names, pictures, platforms, voting records, (if applicable,) backgrounds, opinions, newslinks, statements, and whatever other information might be available including links to candidate’s’ websites if they exist.
The state message boards are full of much of this information and no one knows local politics like the locals. It’s time to make local politics national, and here is where we do it. Fifty states, fifty threads, ALL politics will be Free Republic Local politics.
Freepers have the best researchers in the business. We need that right here, right now if we are going to burn down the RINO tent and do it effectively. They will NOT be allowed to silence us again.
Those threads will be information only. Conservative candidates will be flagged and RINOs will be tagged. Anyone who wishes to debate or discuss individual candidates can start a separate thread for that here, AND/OR on the RINO FREE discussion board on FaceBook as well.
I expect these threads to become lengthy, so be sure to add the state and candidate’s name as keywords.
The SECOND part of this plan is a NATIONAL strategy for accomplishing our goal once we have singled out the candidates we choose to support and gather THOSE candidates on to ONE thread. It is our intent to coordinate efforts with the National Tea Party Movement and have them link to our information as well as share whatever info they might have that we don’t...although I find that next to impossible knowing Freepers. There just might be tidbits of inside information we might not have access to, so contributions from outside Freeperdom will be researched by us FOR us and we will do well not to post rumor or inuendo if we have no proof.
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Do you find anything wrong with this plan?
NOTHING posted after that is even possible if we don’t win these elections and seats.
P-Marlowe —
We are on the same side in being offended at the mere mention of tampering with the Bill of Rights.
That said, let me take gentle exception to the examples you used of Biblical commands that we no longer obey. All of those that you listed are tenets of the Law of Moses, a covenant between Jehovah and the children of Israel.
Those commands do not apply to Christians today and haven’t for 2,000 years. As Paul explained, “So the Law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the Law.” Galatians 3:24-25
I agree with you that we should never tamper with our guarantee of religious freedom. We can, however, enforce upon the religion of hate our existing laws against violence and conspiracy . No mosque and no muslim can be allowed to infringe upon our lives, liberties, or pursuit of happiness.
They are still right there in the Bible and unless you are willing to give the government the right to edit the bible and to prohibit the belief that any of those doctrines are applicable today, then you have no business having the government dictate what Muslims are allowed to believe or read or where they can worship.
FWIW the death penalty for murder stll is practiced in Western Civilzation. Are you suggesting that that practice was eliminated under the "new covenant"?
this is not a doctrinal issue and as far as I am concerned on this thread doctrine is irrelevant. The issue is one of protecting the Religious Liberty of all Americans, and if we stat sanctioning the abridgment of religius liberty to one group, then eventually all religious groups will become potential targets.
Indeed, in Canada the religious intolerance of the national government is targeted at evangelical Christians who are being threatened with having their chuches taken away because they preach against homosexuality.
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