Hey, YOU were the one who dropped the religion bomb on this thread by suggesting that somehow it should be a tenet of whatever movement you are supposedly promoting on this forum to prohibit the building of Mosques and denying Religious Liberty to people. I made the statement that if throwing away the first Amendment is a tenet of your movement, then I want nothing to do with it.
Some posters, including you, challenged my LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL position by dragging Islamic doctrine into the mix attempting to justify the wholesale discrimination against one religious group on the basis of some teachings that some members of that religious group may or may not hold to. In response to one poster who asked me a bunch of what I felt were irrelevant religious questions which I have no intention of answering, I simply pointed out that Judeo-Christian tradition has some elements that we might find objectionable too.
I will repeat myself. If you think that the way to make America better is to ignore the First Amendment and start persecuting certain religions and preventing people from even building a place of worship, then you can count me out of your movement.
Your initial post on this thread suggests that Jim Robinson is sanctioning all that you post here, and somehow I think that may not be the case.
FWIW, I think we need to narrow our focus if we are going to change America and turn it back to its roots and we shouldn't be broadening our focus so that we drive away like minded people. IMHO our focus should be simply to return to our roots politically and that focus should be on weakening the Central Government and Strengthening State, Local and Community government with an emphasis on INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY. Much of what you have posted as your proposed platform for this movement TAKES AWAY LIBERTY from individuals and puts the power to take that liberty away in the very hands of the people that we don't want to have it.
So if someone wants to challenge me on this thread and they want to do it from a religious rather than a political standpoint, then I think the only person you have to blame for the thread not going the way you may have intended it is YOU!
So, FWIW, I will not be silenced by you on this thread. If Jim Rob or the Admin Moderator wants to shut me up and tell me to "Stop it" then I will be more than happy to do so, as it is their forum and they can choose to do as they please. And until THEY tell me to "Stop it" then I will continue to post my opinions on this thread or any other thread, and just because you started this thread does not mean that you own it.
As I have previously stated...the author whose work is a list of IDEAS, not commands. I also made it very clear that I did not write it and did NOT change it because it is not MY work to change.
It is NOT stated as a TENET to this project. Those are HIS individual thoughts.
MY input is more centered on the State message boards and elections of CONSERVATIVES to office by nationalizing this election and making this a one stop shop for information related to Congressional candidates from every state.
You are being disingenuous when you pick one IDEA out of many and treat it as though it was the entire project set in stone.
Now, if you have nothing better to offer, I won’t repond anymore to this islam stuff because that is NOT the purpose of this thread.
THIS is THE PLAN as I presented it:
Are we willing to take a giant step forward and create a central action site that allows us to see at a glance every single state’s candidates for national office, House and Senate, to separate the wheat from the chaff? That is our hope. We want to spend our money, our time, and our votes wisely. Our time is JUST as valuable as the money we spend.
The goal is to take back and take over the GOP, or move it out of the way, and elect conservatives to every office we can affect whether the RNC likes it or not.
To do this, we need a clearinghouse and a plan of action that encompasses all 50 states in ONE place. That place is Free Republic. THIS is where we nationalize the 2010 election cycle and choose where our money and our time is spent. The genius of Free Republic is that it already has the 50 state message boards. We don’t have to “google” our way through hundreds of candidates in individual states to find out who is who doing what. It’s already here, just not out in the public eye. This will change that.
I, and others, have repeatedly asked Freepers to present workable ideas with this goal in mind, and there have been many, but the two I am going to post here are comprehensive, have been well thought out over a long period of time, and the magic of it is that it has never been tried before...and THAT is precisely why it will work.
Freeper blueyon, (the originator of RINO FREE AMERICA PROJECT on FaceBook,) and I have worked on the idea to have each state message board create individual STATE BY STATE threads on the forum which presents information ONLY about their national congressional candidates.
We need their candidates’ names, pictures, platforms, voting records, (if applicable,) backgrounds, opinions, newslinks, statements, and whatever other information might be available including links to candidate’s’ websites if they exist.
The state message boards are full of much of this information and no one knows local politics like the locals. It’s time to make local politics national, and here is where we do it. Fifty states, fifty threads, ALL politics will be Free Republic Local politics.
Freepers have the best researchers in the business. We need that right here, right now if we are going to burn down the RINO tent and do it effectively. They will NOT be allowed to silence us again.
Those threads will be information only. Conservative candidates will be flagged and RINOs will be tagged. Anyone who wishes to debate or discuss individual candidates can start a separate thread for that here, AND/OR on the RINO FREE discussion board on FaceBook as well.
I expect these threads to become lengthy, so be sure to add the state and candidate’s name as keywords.
The SECOND part of this plan is a NATIONAL strategy for accomplishing our goal once we have singled out the candidates we choose to support and gather THOSE candidates on to ONE thread. It is our intent to coordinate efforts with the National Tea Party Movement and have them link to our information as well as share whatever info they might have that we don’t...although I find that next to impossible knowing Freepers. There just might be tidbits of inside information we might not have access to, so contributions from outside Freeperdom will be researched by us FOR us and we will do well not to post rumor or inuendo if we have no proof.
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Do you find anything wrong with this plan?
NOTHING posted after that is even possible if we don’t win these elections and seats.
>LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL position
Given Islam competes with the Constitution for allegiance and supremacy, it is treason.
>I felt were irrelevant religious questions which I have no
>intention of answering
You make great intellectual claims, and you are too holy to respond to objections? Sounds like handwaving. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handwaving
>Judeo-Christian tradition has some elements that we might
>find objectionable too
Did you read the Bible for yourself, or did you copy and paste those quotes?
>I will repeat myself. If you think that the way to make
>America better ...
Please, tell us how to oppose Islam effectively. The current plan of capitulation, and begging, and letting them build mosques, and breed, and bully, is a failure.
>we shouldn’t be broadening our focus
You want to ignore Islam?
>I will not be silenced by you on this thread
You’re right. We can’t silence you. But given you engage in handwaving, while pretending to put forth intellectual arguments given you refuse to respond directly to challenges, and instead list out of context Bible quotes that apply only to the nation of Israel, all while claiming to be the solitary holder of truth, all while you’ve been utterly outclassed ... you also you can’t silence me either.
Say what you want going forward. :)
From post #10 ...
“Watch out for people who offering no alternative, scorn and mock this plan. I am not perfect, and this plan is not perfect, and I expect mistakes to be pointed out. Mistakes will then be corrected. But PATRIOTS, will bring superior solutions to the table, and will constructively work for unity. Others will want to divide, and draw people after them. “From such, turn away.””
What alternative do you offer, other than the ineffective status quo? So far, you are the very brand of empty conceit we have been warned about.