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Do Conservatives and Republicans Hate David Frum?
Conservatives4Palin.com ^ | Jan 04 2010 | Tommy Report

Posted on 01/04/2010 7:31:08 PM PST by Brugmansian

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To: musicman

That pretty well nails it.


21 posted on 01/04/2010 8:26:49 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

22 posted on 01/04/2010 9:19:14 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Brugmansian
because 37% approval from Jews is actually very good

Good lord...that is absurd...good compared to what?

What Joy Behar thinks of Sarah maybe...

23 posted on 01/04/2010 9:22:43 PM PST by wardaddy (Ole Miss beat Oklahoma State....we're not snobs, we're just special)
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To: Brugmansian

I am a fan of neither Palin nor Frum, but given the choice, I wouldn’t side wit hthe son of Canadian socialists, who wishes to reshape the GOP.


24 posted on 01/04/2010 9:48:00 PM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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To: Brugmansian

I think I hate him.....yes....I do....


25 posted on 01/04/2010 9:49:44 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: wardaddy
That percentage is just about what the GOP polls with the Jewish voters.

I have never completely understood why, but it is what it is. I can only suspect that it is because so many Jews live on the Left coasts.

26 posted on 01/04/2010 9:52:40 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: OldDeckHand
He can turn a phrase, and was one of Bush's most effective speech writers”

I am not so sure about that.
I have been reading Ronald Kessler’s book on Bush, “A Matter of Character”, Pages 137 and 138:

Frum the weasel claimed in his own book “The Right Man”, that Bush was “impatient, quick to anger, glib , dogmatic, uncurious and ill informed”
Karen Hughes replied that Frum was only a low level speech writer, who had only met Bush in the Oval Office a few times. Bush's chief speech writer Mike Gerson said Frum hardly knew Bush.
“Who the hell is Frum to even say this?” Bush aide Margaret Spellings said. “The only reason Bush recognized him was he saw his picture blasted on TV then thousand times. The president didn't know who David Frum was”.
Frum is a pathetic joke, an attention seeking jerk, and one of the most treacherous weasels one could ever meet.

27 posted on 01/04/2010 10:47:06 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: wardaddy
Good lord...that is absurd...good compared to what?”

Good because the McCain/Palin ticket didn't do significantly worse among American Jews than the Bush/Cheney ticket in 2000 or 2004.
Jews have always voted overwhelmingly for Democrats. Nothing new here.

28 posted on 01/04/2010 10:55:11 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Nachum

I agree. Extreme annoyance is the feeling I have for Frum. He is not important enough to hate.


29 posted on 01/05/2010 3:13:20 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: SmokingJoe
SmokingJoe: Frum is a pathetic joke, an attention seeking jerk, and one of the most treacherous weasels one could ever meet.

Explains why he supports backstabber, sore loser, Mitt Romney.

30 posted on 01/05/2010 3:36:12 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Cold Heat

I think it has more to do with the concept of secular reform Judaism and tikkun olam, the pogram fear meets collectivist anti-pluralist bent of Ashkenazim immigrants from Eastern Europe from 1890-1935 and a natural distaste for Christian traditions which influence social behavior...and the concentration in large urban rather than pastoral areas.

I know that sounds like a lot but I think it explains why American Jews today behave as they do...considering how bright many are.

like another FReeper here always says....Moses to Marx in 12 easy steps...it ain’t random....I applaud the minority of Jews who buck this trend...they are under a lot of pressure to conform to the collectivist bent of the tribe


31 posted on 01/05/2010 8:46:17 AM PST by wardaddy (Ole Miss beat Oklahoma State....we're not snobs, we're just special)
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To: rmlew
I am a fan of neither Palin

we are going to have to work on that lew..dadgummit

32 posted on 01/05/2010 8:49:42 AM PST by wardaddy (Ole Miss beat Oklahoma State....we're not snobs, we're just special)
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To: Brugmansian

I don’t hate anybody.

I loathe David Frum.


33 posted on 01/05/2010 3:33:54 PM PST by NeoCaveman (you betcha)
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To: NeoCaveman

To loathe is my favorite. Hate is too mindless. Liberals really hate it when you look down on them and loathe sends that message. I’m not impressed by Frum’s credentials. I’m not impressed by the money he and his parents spent to get those credentials. I loathe what he is. It really hits them hard when we do this.


34 posted on 01/05/2010 3:41:53 PM PST by Brugmansian
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To: OldDeckHand
Liz Cheney said once that Pres Bush barely knew Frum, not sure he really did write many speeches.

Maybe Frum has given that impression over the years to inflate is resume?

35 posted on 01/05/2010 3:42:42 PM PST by roses of sharon (This is a feral government, broken from the civilizing constraints of the Constitution.)
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To: roses of sharon
"Maybe Frum has given that impression over the years to inflate is resume? "

I'm not sure really who to believe. Until Bush writes and releases his memoir, we probably won't know for sure. I've read that many of the speech writers thought that Gerson (sp?) had an over-inflated estimate of his importance. I have also read that Frum was the central author of the "axis of evil" speech - and that came from people other than Frum himself. Clearly, Frum is an articulate speaker and skilled writer that suffers from horrible policy instincts. He's wrong about virtually everything he says, although he says it nicely.

36 posted on 01/05/2010 3:51:55 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand
He's Canadian. He can turn a phrase, and was one of Bush's most effective speech writers, but he's always been WAY TOO moderate.

Frum was trying to be a hard-line "role back the size of government" guy back in the Nineties when he wrote Dead Right. Of course, he isn't any more.

But I think the problem is more that Frum's an opportunist who's out to advance his own career, and that he's specialized in attacking other conservatives rather than working with them.

He's too full of himself, too much the rogue egotist.

37 posted on 01/05/2010 3:54:59 PM PST by x
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To: OldDeckHand
Ah yes, I remember the axis claim...who knows...I do know for sure that Frum, Brooks, Noonan, Parker, ect, have shown they are bigots thru and thru.

Their disrespect and mocking of average Americans....came thru loud and clear in 08.

It is good they are at least exposed, so as not to influence us anymore.

38 posted on 01/05/2010 4:00:15 PM PST by roses of sharon (This is a feral government, broken from the civilizing constraints of the Constitution.)
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To: blackminorca
What is a Frum?

To my surprise, it means something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frum

39 posted on 01/05/2010 5:33:28 PM PST by Brugmansian
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