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MI5 Told US About Detroit Bomber's Terror Links A Year Ago [Britain Rebuffs Obama?]
Telegraph(UK) ^ | January 04th 2010 | Robert Winnett & Duncan Gardham

Posted on 01/04/2010 6:17:25 PM PST by Steelfish

MI5 Told US About Detroit Bomber's Terror Links A Year Ago Britain told American intelligence agents more than a year ago that the Detroit bomber had links to extremists, Downing Street has announced.

Robert Winnett and Duncan Gardham 04 Jan 2010

Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was named in a file of people based in Britain who had made contact with radical Muslim preachers. The file was sent to the US authorities in 2008. The disclosure will embarrass President Barack Obama, who is already under pressure after failures by US intelligence to identify the bomber.

It will also add to concern over the state of the “special relationship” between Downing Street and the White House following last year’s dispute over the early release of the Lockerbie bomber. It is extremely unusual for the Prime Minister’s office to comment on intelligence matters. The move could be seen as an attempt to rebuff criticism from senior American figures who claimed that Britain had nurtured Islamic extremism.

At first it was thought that MI5 gathered only limited information on Abdulmutallab and had therefore not alerted the US. However, in an official briefing, the Prime Minister’s spokesman said that British intelligence was shared with the Americans. He said: “Clearly there was security information about this individual’s activities and that was information that was shared with the US authorities. That is the key point.”

The spokesman added: “We are pretty certain that he was radicalised outside the UK. He [Abdulmutallab] left the UK in October 2008. “But it is also clear that while he was here he was attempting to make contact with people and that is the intelligence we were able to secure from the intelligence services.”

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1 posted on 01/04/2010 6:17:26 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
Which proves that AlQaida had to have recently attempted to assassinate Goober ~ else he'd just laughed off this airplane trick.

He knows a lot more than he's letting on.

2 posted on 01/04/2010 6:18:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Steelfish

Who does Pres Obama throw under the bus this time?


3 posted on 01/04/2010 6:22:05 PM PST by FourPeas (Why does Professor Presbury's wolfhound, Roy, endeavour to bite him?)
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To: FourPeas

Janet or Hillary.


4 posted on 01/04/2010 6:24:19 PM PST by scooby321
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To: scooby321

Just to be sure, throw both.


5 posted on 01/04/2010 6:25:50 PM PST by tsmith130
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To: muawiyah

Not on any watch list? A “sharp dressed man” waved him on even though he had no passport?

There is WAAAAY more to this story than meets the eye.


6 posted on 01/04/2010 6:29:02 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: Steelfish

Why stop with this and not spill the beans on the shady background of this moo moo commie son of a whore and who paid his bills at Harvard?


7 posted on 01/04/2010 6:29:25 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Steelfish
Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was named in a file of people based in Britain who had made contact with radical Muslim preachers

I am not sure what the threshold is for someone to be on a watch list vs no-fly list but I doubt someone is placed on a no-fly list just based on contact with radical preachers or the no-fly list would be enormous. I suspect this is why this guy was already on the watch list and is just CYA by the UK.

However I have yet to hear the media ask Obama or the other zeroes the obvious question - why isn't everyone on the watch list patted down and searched. Every one of those 500K should be pulled out of line. If not, why not? I want to hear the answer to that question.

8 posted on 01/04/2010 6:31:26 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Steelfish

So, in keeping with Michael Moore and his friends, is this an “Obama Let it Happen on Purpose” or an “Obama Made it Happen on Purpose. A MIHOP or a LIHOP? If Bush knew, then of course, Obama knew. Daily Kos and Huffpo, let’s be consistent.


9 posted on 01/04/2010 6:32:24 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: FourPeas
Who does Pres Obama throw under the bus this time?

Bush and Cheney...

10 posted on 01/04/2010 6:35:04 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out; jimrob
Not on any watch list? A “sharp dressed man” waved him on even though he had no passport? There is WAAAAY more to this story than meets the eye. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You bet there is and believe me the rest of the story is now being uncovered. We will see the rest shortly.Stay tuned and tight.

11 posted on 01/04/2010 6:37:14 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA))
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To: Steelfish

TOTUS is totally useless! We need to establish a Czar of czars position, place Barry in the ceremonial position and elect a real president...or...he is making a very strong case for elimination of the position.

UNqualified, UNaccountable, UNnecessary Bureaucrat BUMP!


12 posted on 01/04/2010 6:39:26 PM PST by PGalt
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To: FourPeas

Americans...


13 posted on 01/04/2010 6:39:44 PM PST by dalebert
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To: Steelfish

“special relationship”

Hehehehe. I think that went by the wayside after a few snubs by Obama. Called getting even.


14 posted on 01/04/2010 6:40:49 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: All; Rome2000; Steelfish

This might interest you:

Dr. Jack Wheeler is editor of ToThePointNews “an online geopolitical intelligence service”. He has had two parallel careers: one in the field of adventure and exploration as the owner of Jack Wheeler Expeditions; the other in the field of political and economic freedom as president of the Freedom Research Foundation. Wheeler’s articles are also published by WebNetDaily.

Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler Thursday, 30 April 2009

Paris, France. It is very cool to be a French intel guy.
A spectacular meal at a Parisian bistro with $90 entrées and a $200 bottle of Bordeaux? No problem. I’d known this fellow since he got me out of a jam in Sudan years ago. His James Bond days are over, but still, riding a desk for the DGSE – Direction générale de la sécurité extérieure (General Directorate for External Security), France’s military intel agency – in Paris has its decided benefits. One of them is not being infected with Obamamania. “My agency considers him a joke,” he confides. “Every day there is some fresh lunacy that we cannot believe.

Mr. Bush would often make us angry. But at this man we just laugh.” “In truth, it also makes us sad,” he continued. “French resentment towards America is strong, so being able to laugh at your country feels good. But it is such a sad and strange thing to see America – America The Great! – do something so crazy as to elect this ridiculous man.” “There are many people in America who think he isn’t a legitimate president as he wasn’t born in the US and isn’t a natural citizen. What do you think?” I asked.

He shrugged. “I wouldn’t know. I’ve never had reason to make an inquiry.” “There are a lot of people convinced he is a traitor who hates America and is actively determined to destroy it. Any opinion on that?” He didn’t shrug at this. After a long slow sip of wine, he mused, “I would not go that far. Many of his actions, however, are very puzzling because they are so counter-productive regarding America’s best interests. There seems to be a consistent pattern in that direction.”

“What does Sarkozy think of him?” “Nothing but contempt.” After a pause he asked, “And Langley?” “Well, if you thought the war they waged against Bush was intense, it was nothing compared to how they’re going to screw Obama. He has tried to gut them with the ‘torture memo’ release and slashing their budgets. The morale is depressed, sullen, and enraged. You know what a left-wing outfit Langley is.

They thought he was their boy and they feel betrayed. All kinds of damaging stuff on him will be appearing via their media friends.” He nodded. “And in Tel Aviv City?” He was referring to the huge underground city complex of Langley’s underneath the US Embassy in the Israeli capital. “That’s an interesting question. You know how vast and deep the relationship is there.

Langley is making every effort to overcome the total and massive distrust their Israeli colleagues have for Obama, whom they know is selling them down the Jordan River. So far though this effort is in words. The Israelis are waiting to see what Langley does.” He said nothing. I smiled. “You guys wouldn’t be Langley’s cutout for thwarting BO regarding Israel, would you? I’d never suspect that…” He continued to say nothing, gave me only a slight smile in return, and poured me another glass of wine.

“The Bordeaux is good, yes?” I nodded. “You know, the French media worships this man the same as yours in the US. All of this ‘100 days’ talk, it is impossibly stupid. Most anyone in the French elite, the business leaders, Sarko’s people, they all know this.

They all think this is some crazy joke of the Americans. But it is a very, very dangerous joke. For 100 days your president has been a laughingstock among the tout le monde of Paris. No one may be laughing 100 days or 10 months from now.”

He leaned forward. “The world can go – how do you say – sideways with this man very quickly. No one he has working for him knows what they are doing – possibly excepting Mrs. Clinton – and he certainly does not. All of us in our little community are worried – us, our friends in Berlin, London, Tel Aviv, and Langley too as you say. It is not like the barbarians at the gates. It is every barbarian horde in the world being told there are no gates. The Somalis, Chavez, Iran, Putin, Beijing, the ‘Norks” as you call them, the list is long and it is growing.

We are not sure what to do.” It took me a moment to respond. “The best thing that has happened now is Obama making Langley his enemy. They will be cooperating with you more, be more a part of your worried community. Working together, you can undermine his efforts more effectively, block and maybe even repair the damage.”

It was my turn to lean forward. “Then again, all together you could be more pro-active. The man is a mystery. Nobody can make public his actual birth certificate, or even the particular hospital he was born in, or his college grades, or how he got into Harvard, or how he made editor of the Harvard Law Review and never wrote a single article for it. It goes on and on. He really is a Zero. I think all of you guys should find all of this out and make it known.” I added, “The quicker the better, before the laughing stops and the real dangers begin.”

“What is that phrase you use?” he asked. “Something to consider?” I laughed. “Yes, there is much to consider – and much that you can do. I mean, really, if the Soviet Union could be dismantled, so can this presidency.”

It was a beautiful April afternoon in Paris. He walked me back to my hotel. It could be that the times we live in may get even more interesting.


15 posted on 01/04/2010 6:41:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin: What will you do?)
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To: FourPeas

How about Axelshaft or BaghdadBob Gibbs or even Pink TuTu Rahm (Deadfish) Emanuel??? After all, this is the most serious Fudgeup to date caused by BOZO’S Idiocy and Lack of Any Grey Matter between those Dumbo ears!...(o_O)!!


16 posted on 01/04/2010 6:44:51 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Good to know the screws are turning.

Praying for all hell to break loose on these degenerate red sons of bitches ASAP.

17 posted on 01/04/2010 6:49:37 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Rome2000

I’ve always believed that Obama’s undoing would happen when he ticked off Britian or Israel one time to many. It looks like MI5 has had enough.

This can be seen as nothing but a warning to Obama - do not mess with us.


18 posted on 01/04/2010 6:49:40 PM PST by Brytani (Support Allen West For Congress - www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: Candor7

What happened to the well dressed man that didn’t exist until the 3rd verson besides being handcuffed?


19 posted on 01/04/2010 6:50:18 PM PST by AGreatPer (Impeach Obama)
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To: Steelfish

OBAMA KNEW!


20 posted on 01/04/2010 6:50:58 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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