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1 posted on 01/04/2010 3:05:22 PM PST by Maggie Maggie Maggie
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Hmm. Drip, drip, drip, drip. First we heard that MI5 knew about it. Now we’re told that they informed Washington.

There’s some talk that the intelligence people in Paris and London may get together with the CIA to embarrass Obama. They are all coming around to viewing him as the enemy—even the leftists at the CIA.


2 posted on 01/04/2010 3:11:15 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Maggie Maggie Maggie

It seems that everyone knew about this guy. The difference is what was done with that info. The UK took action as they should. Our administration,,, provided a good lawyer to the guy.. Telling isn’t it?


3 posted on 01/04/2010 3:14:24 PM PST by ColdOne (ColdOne(Obama=Treason))
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Isn’t that strange...I was watching the news this morning & all I heard was that MI5 new about the bomber & never told the US. This was on FNC this morning.


4 posted on 01/04/2010 3:18:03 PM PST by Atom Smasher
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To: Maggie Maggie Maggie

To my post prior to this one, I would have to say that quite possibly our guys knew, but like everything else under this administration...was ignored.


5 posted on 01/04/2010 3:19:40 PM PST by Atom Smasher
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To: Maggie Maggie Maggie

The dominant left-wing media isn`t touching this with a 10ft pole.

Obama was undoubtedly informed, knew all about it and did NOTHING !

Not only nothing, less than nothing. He went snorkeling.


6 posted on 01/04/2010 3:34:16 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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The file was sent to the US authorities in 2008.

AHA! Bush's fault!! /s/

7 posted on 01/04/2010 3:50:02 PM PST by Gritty (America has the best troops and firepower, but no strategy for throttling the enemy ideology-M Steyn)
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So, just how is it that (a) an additional "homeland security" bureau, (b)a new intelligence bureau and it's director, above and coordinating all the intelligence efforts of all the intelligence agencies, and (c)heightened executive command for “greater cooperation” between all the intelligence efforts, since 9/11, has prevented failures like 9/11??

Oh, that's right, as the Detroit incident shows, they haven't.

In fact, it's entirely possible that the expanded intelligence bureaucracy has dissipated, not narrowed, the focus that was needed.

8 posted on 01/04/2010 5:04:12 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Maggie Maggie Maggie; Whenifhow; malkee; STE=Q; rocco55; thouworm; rxsid; GOPJ; Fred Nerks; ...

Cross thread reference on duplicate , good comments there
locked thread, especially post #15:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2421059/posts

To: All; Rome2000; Steelfish
This might interest you:

Dr. Jack Wheeler is editor of ToThePointNews “an online geopolitical intelligence service”. He has had two parallel careers: one in the field of adventure and exploration as the owner of Jack Wheeler Expeditions; the other in the field of political and economic freedom as president of the Freedom Research Foundation. Wheeler’s articles are also published by WebNetDaily.

Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler Thursday, 30 April 2009

Paris, France. It is very cool to be a French intel guy.
A spectacular meal at a Parisian bistro with $90 entrées and a $200 bottle of Bordeaux? No problem. I’d known this fellow since he got me out of a jam in Sudan years ago. His James Bond days are over, but still, riding a desk for the DGSE – Direction générale de la sécurité extérieure (General Directorate for External Security), France’s military intel agency – in Paris has its decided benefits. One of them is not being infected with Obamamania. “My agency considers him a joke,” he confides. “Every day there is some fresh lunacy that we cannot believe.

Mr. Bush would often make us angry. But at this man we just laugh.” “In truth, it also makes us sad,” he continued. “French resentment towards America is strong, so being able to laugh at your country feels good. But it is such a sad and strange thing to see America – America The Great! – do something so crazy as to elect this ridiculous man.” “There are many people in America who think he isn’t a legitimate president as he wasn’t born in the US and isn’t a natural citizen. What do you think?” I asked.

He shrugged. “I wouldn’t know. I’ve never had reason to make an inquiry.” “There are a lot of people convinced he is a traitor who hates America and is actively determined to destroy it. Any opinion on that?” He didn’t shrug at this. After a long slow sip of wine, he mused, “I would not go that far. Many of his actions, however, are very puzzling because they are so counter-productive regarding America’s best interests. There seems to be a consistent pattern in that direction.”

“What does Sarkozy think of him?” “Nothing but contempt.” After a pause he asked, “And Langley?” “Well, if you thought the war they waged against Bush was intense, it was nothing compared to how they’re going to screw Obama. He has tried to gut them with the ‘torture memo’ release and slashing their budgets. The morale is depressed, sullen, and enraged. You know what a left-wing outfit Langley is.

They thought he was their boy and they feel betrayed. All kinds of damaging stuff on him will be appearing via their media friends.” He nodded. “And in Tel Aviv City?” He was referring to the huge underground city complex of Langley’s underneath the US Embassy in the Israeli capital. “That’s an interesting question. You know how vast and deep the relationship is there.

Langley is making every effort to overcome the total and massive distrust their Israeli colleagues have for Obama, whom they know is selling them down the Jordan River. So far though this effort is in words. The Israelis are waiting to see what Langley does.” He said nothing. I smiled. “You guys wouldn’t be Langley’s cutout for thwarting BO regarding Israel, would you? I’d never suspect that…” He continued to say nothing, gave me only a slight smile in return, and poured me another glass of wine.

“The Bordeaux is good, yes?” I nodded. “You know, the French media worships this man the same as yours in the US. All of this ‘100 days’ talk, it is impossibly stupid. Most anyone in the French elite, the business leaders, Sarko’s people, they all know this.

They all think this is some crazy joke of the Americans. But it is a very, very dangerous joke. For 100 days your president has been a laughingstock among the tout le monde of Paris. No one may be laughing 100 days or 10 months from now.”

He leaned forward. “The world can go – how do you say – sideways with this man very quickly. No one he has working for him knows what they are doing – possibly excepting Mrs. Clinton – and he certainly does not. All of us in our little community are worried – us, our friends in Berlin, London, Tel Aviv, and Langley too as you say. It is not like the barbarians at the gates. It is every barbarian horde in the world being told there are no gates. The Somalis, Chavez, Iran, Putin, Beijing, the ‘Norks” as you call them, the list is long and it is growing.

We are not sure what to do.” It took me a moment to respond. “The best thing that has happened now is Obama making Langley his enemy. They will be cooperating with you more, be more a part of your worried community. Working together, you can undermine his efforts more effectively, block and maybe even repair the damage.”

It was my turn to lean forward. “Then again, all together you could be more pro-active. The man is a mystery. Nobody can make public his actual birth certificate, or even the particular hospital he was born in, or his college grades, or how he got into Harvard, or how he made editor of the Harvard Law Review and never wrote a single article for it. It goes on and on. He really is a Zero. I think all of you guys should find all of this out and make it known.” I added, “The quicker the better, before the laughing stops and the real dangers begin.”

“What is that phrase you use?” he asked. “Something to consider?” I laughed. “Yes, there is much to consider – and much that you can do. I mean, really, if the Soviet Union could be dismantled, so can this presidency.”

It was a beautiful April afternoon in Paris. He walked me back to my hotel. It could be that the times we live in may get even more interesting.

15 posted on Monday, January 04, 2010 9:41:06 PM by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin: What will you do?)


10 posted on 01/04/2010 7:04:25 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA))
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To: Maggie Maggie Maggie
Payback is a b!tch.

I'm guessing that DVD selection didn't impress.

12 posted on 01/04/2010 7:05:14 PM PST by Mariner (Too bad we can't just shoot 'em.)
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To: hennie pennie

*bookmark*


13 posted on 01/04/2010 7:09:17 PM PST by hennie pennie
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Our ‘intelligence’ could learn a thing or five about terrorism from MI5.....


15 posted on 01/04/2010 7:20:22 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR... Monthly donors welcome!)
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To: jhpigott; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; SunkenCiv; Nachum
This doesn't make any sense.

IF it is true, then why was this person not on the NO FLY list?

If it is untrue, OR if it is TRUE, why would MI5 ever leak to the press about it?

WHAT, pray tell, is your take on this story?

I mean... this is really worrisome, if you take the story simply at face value, then it seems to infer that ... they .... wanted???? this to occur, as they obviously should have known all about it..

HUH?

18 posted on 01/04/2010 7:39:00 PM PST by hennie pennie
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Early reports stated the US knew about him TWO YEARS ago. Whether is was from MI5 or other sources, it didn’t say.

Early reports also stated dad went to the US embassy back in JUNE which contradicts the “few weeks ago” timeline that has been run through the msm.

Here’s the African and UK reports:

http://allafrica.com/stories/200912260001.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2415319/posts

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6968539.ece


21 posted on 01/04/2010 7:49:54 PM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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All I can think about is how the left to this day still crucifies Bush for getting a broad intel memo, I believe in Aug before 9/11 that planes may be targeted. That’s mild compared to this!!!


27 posted on 01/04/2010 8:09:26 PM PST by RatsDawg
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a file of people based in Britain who had made contact with radical Muslim preachers.

I wonder if there is a similar list for Chicago or DC?

28 posted on 01/04/2010 8:10:01 PM PST by Onelifetogive (Flame away...)
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To: Maggie Maggie Maggie

Nothing will ever embarrass Obama. He lacks shame.


32 posted on 01/04/2010 8:37:14 PM PST by Moose Burger
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To: Maggie Maggie Maggie; Cicero; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Yes. It appears to be a very drippy situation. In need of a real plumber. But alas my friends. I fear, the right team of master plumbers will not be found any time soon. Zero has three more years to go.
My often analogy of being up shit creek without a paddle still applies. And the waterfall with the huge ragged rocks below the falls is in sight, just beyond the huge sets of rapids leading to the falls.
34 posted on 01/04/2010 10:02:47 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Tunehead54

4 am bttt! ‘-)


37 posted on 01/04/2010 10:29:17 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: All; Maggie Maggie Maggie; Cicero

This might interest you:

Dr. Jack Wheeler is editor of ToThePointNews “an online geopolitical intelligence service”. He has had two parallel careers: one in the field of adventure and exploration as the owner of Jack Wheeler Expeditions; the other in the field of political and economic freedom as president of the Freedom Research Foundation. Wheeler’s articles are also published by WebNetDaily.

Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler Thursday, 30 April 2009

Paris, France. It is very cool to be a French intel guy.
A spectacular meal at a Parisian bistro with $90 entrées and a $200 bottle of Bordeaux? No problem. I’d known this fellow since he got me out of a jam in Sudan years ago. His James Bond days are over, but still, riding a desk for the DGSE – Direction générale de la sécurité extérieure (General Directorate for External Security), France’s military intel agency – in Paris has its decided benefits. One of them is not being infected with Obamamania. “My agency considers him a joke,” he confides. “Every day there is some fresh lunacy that we cannot believe.

Mr. Bush would often make us angry. But at this man we just laugh.” “In truth, it also makes us sad,” he continued. “French resentment towards America is strong, so being able to laugh at your country feels good. But it is such a sad and strange thing to see America – America The Great! – do something so crazy as to elect this ridiculous man.” “There are many people in America who think he isn’t a legitimate president as he wasn’t born in the US and isn’t a natural citizen. What do you think?” I asked.

He shrugged. “I wouldn’t know. I’ve never had reason to make an inquiry.” “There are a lot of people convinced he is a traitor who hates America and is actively determined to destroy it. Any opinion on that?” He didn’t shrug at this. After a long slow sip of wine, he mused, “I would not go that far. Many of his actions, however, are very puzzling because they are so counter-productive regarding America’s best interests. There seems to be a consistent pattern in that direction.”

“What does Sarkozy think of him?” “Nothing but contempt.” After a pause he asked, “And Langley?” “Well, if you thought the war they waged against Bush was intense, it was nothing compared to how they’re going to screw Obama. He has tried to gut them with the ‘torture memo’ release and slashing their budgets. The morale is depressed, sullen, and enraged. You know what a left-wing outfit Langley is.

They thought he was their boy and they feel betrayed. All kinds of damaging stuff on him will be appearing via their media friends.” He nodded. “And in Tel Aviv City?” He was referring to the huge underground city complex of Langley’s underneath the US Embassy in the Israeli capital. “That’s an interesting question. You know how vast and deep the relationship is there.

Langley is making every effort to overcome the total and massive distrust their Israeli colleagues have for Obama, whom they know is selling them down the Jordan River. So far though this effort is in words. The Israelis are waiting to see what Langley does.” He said nothing. I smiled. “You guys wouldn’t be Langley’s cutout for thwarting BO regarding Israel, would you? I’d never suspect that…” He continued to say nothing, gave me only a slight smile in return, and poured me another glass of wine.

“The Bordeaux is good, yes?” I nodded. “You know, the French media worships this man the same as yours in the US. All of this ‘100 days’ talk, it is impossibly stupid. Most anyone in the French elite, the business leaders, Sarko’s people, they all know this.

They all think this is some crazy joke of the Americans. But it is a very, very dangerous joke. For 100 days your president has been a laughingstock among the tout le monde of Paris. No one may be laughing 100 days or 10 months from now.”

He leaned forward. “The world can go – how do you say – sideways with this man very quickly. No one he has working for him knows what they are doing – possibly excepting Mrs. Clinton – and he certainly does not. All of us in our little community are worried – us, our friends in Berlin, London, Tel Aviv, and Langley too as you say. It is not like the barbarians at the gates. It is every barbarian horde in the world being told there are no gates. The Somalis, Chavez, Iran, Putin, Beijing, the ‘Norks” as you call them, the list is long and it is growing.

We are not sure what to do.” It took me a moment to respond. “The best thing that has happened now is Obama making Langley his enemy. They will be cooperating with you more, be more a part of your worried community. Working together, you can undermine his efforts more effectively, block and maybe even repair the damage.”

It was my turn to lean forward. “Then again, all together you could be more pro-active. The man is a mystery. Nobody can make public his actual birth certificate, or even the particular hospital he was born in, or his college grades, or how he got into Harvard, or how he made editor of the Harvard Law Review and never wrote a single article for it. It goes on and on. He really is a Zero. I think all of you guys should find all of this out and make it known.” I added, “The quicker the better, before the laughing stops and the real dangers begin.”

“What is that phrase you use?” he asked. “Something to consider?” I laughed. “Yes, there is much to consider – and much that you can do. I mean, really, if the Soviet Union could be dismantled, so can this presidency.”

It was a beautiful April afternoon in Paris. He walked me back to my hotel. It could be that the times we live in may get even more interesting.


38 posted on 01/04/2010 10:38:55 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin: What will you do?)
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Britain told American intelligence agents more than a year ago that the Detroit bomber had links to extremists, Downing Street has announced.

There is NO WAY "Downing Street" would release this statement without clearance from the top. Hence, methinks Mr. Brown posseseth more than a mere distaste for our sweet young Barack.

Whatever happened to "diplomacy"?

42 posted on 01/05/2010 6:26:36 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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