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To: nwctwx; caww

Thank you for your response. These numbers still do not jive with reality. Seems as if they are meant to instill a false sense of stability and positive momentum that does not compute with the actual backsliding going on.
The DoD is desperately seeking to put forth positives so this administration can adhere to its timetable which, in my opinion, is more CYA than anything. islam will have its way and they know it.
Iran’s involvement cannot be underestimated and yet there is nothing in this report about it whatsoever.
You are aware, I am sure, that the US Government has now begun negotiating with terrorists and released back into the streets a well known Iranian proxy responsible for the murders of five American soldiers in Karbala in exchange for a Brit reporter
This is unprecedented and the impact is not lost on anti-American, anti-Shia, and pro-wahab Sunni extremist factions who have been laying low waiting for the US to pull out.
That Iran has brazenly coopted an Iraqi oil field with NO response is also a very bad omen for the entire area. Add to that the new negotiating stance of Saudi Arabia VS Iran, and you have a storm of umimaginable proportions blowing there.
This has always been between Saudi Arabia and Iran vying for power in the region. One of the Saudis’ main goals has been met by eliminating the influence of Abdullah of Jordan in the area which was accomplished with OUR help.
Contrary to “public” reports, the UN has not got a clue and are far less than forthcoming with anything resembling the truth. Trusting either the UN OR the government to give you the truth is a mistake.
Nothing is going to stand in the way of the power struggle for control of the Caliphate they are trying to establish and both factions are exerting their will in many areas of the world.
Enough for tonight.
This is a complicated world. We cannot afford to be lulled by reports that smell like roses when the truth is more like rotting fish.


383 posted on 01/03/2010 12:41:37 AM PST by MestaMachine (Your CORE is the path you walk. RINOs don't walk paths, they build roads to nowhere..)
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ALERT!!!

SAN'A, Yemen (AP) US Embassy in Yemen says it has closed due to threats from al-Qaida.

384 posted on 01/03/2010 1:24:30 AM PST by JustPiper (Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. ~ML King)
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To: MestaMachine

Yes...it’s indeed a mess...but I do believe the gov. wants to present the positive side which is why we see those stats. Not that I believe the gov. But I have no problem believing Iraqy people “enjoy democracy”..for what they understand of it. And the improvements to their country. Who wouldn’t with all considered.

We know there will never be complete peace there, their tribal fighting is not going to go away. Nor Iran and Syria’s working together to zoom into Iraq at a later time. And now there’s Yemen and Pakistan war fronts... I feel there will always be others there.

.but I am convinced were we not over there these countries would be blowing each other up, not to mention Israel. They all want the oil and the power that comes from it. So the Mid-east is never going to rest from being a hot spot. The mindset of the people is not wired for peace as we know it. There politics is their religion and will not function seperately so Islam will continue to be a threat to us all.

The most we can expect is to keep the lid on the pot from boiling over too far..too stop what we can. My fear is that this will only be for a time at best...

I’d like to think after the next election we’ll close our borders...I dream we would become isolated from that part of the world. I would be more than glad to be a poor country that’s free than one under any world governance. we can build our nation again and take care of ourselves.

Unfortunately too many in leadership positions, on both side, of the aisle are globalists and are so entrenched with those who are carrying the agenda we see Bo and this current admin. doing now, that I have serious doubts much can be done to stop it. There’s just not enough on our side and have enough power to turn this tide...unless the man on the street rises up.

The Muslims will continue to infiltrate the Us just as they have Eu, Spain, France etc..and we will see more of the problems as they have because our government will not stop them. So, with this in mind the question is how do we prepare and how do we prepare our children.....Questions abound in my mind.

I know well your frustration with info not being reported rightly...and the onslaught of information to discern...the only way I can see to handle it all is to keep an eye on the larger picture. Bo is not going to care if we think he’s a liar or not...the agenda is fixed and all he has to do is push it thru and ride out the next three years. I doubt he want to run again.

Well, hopefully Ian may have a few words to add which might make better sense of things....but no matter .. it will still look bad. You and I and others know it.

Too long..sorry..cw


386 posted on 01/03/2010 1:28:39 AM PST by caww
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To: MestaMachine
These numbers still do not jive with reality.

Do you have these reality numbers, so that we can compare?

423 posted on 01/03/2010 9:33:12 AM PST by Velveeta
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