Pastor Rick Warren urgently asks faithful for $900,000 (Ask Your Boy Obama For It)

Orange County Register ^ | 12-30-2009

[kalee]

The church does not make its financial information public, so anyone who gives him money is foolish.

[kalee]

Same here. Our vestry meetings are open to members of the church and a report of what transpired at those meetings is posted every month on the bulletin board in the parish hall. Our financial situation, (we are trying to buy/build a new church) is discussed in great detail at the annual meeting and in between if a parishioner has a question they can contact the priest or the treasurer and receive a financial statement.

[trollcrusher]

Caution ... Rick Warren could pull an “Oral Roberts” and say that if his flock doesn’t cough up $1 million cool ones (or in this case, $900,000 cool ones), God is gonna call him home.

Let Warren pull that money out of his bank account or cut back on HIS purchases, etc.

[verity]

"...urgently asks faithful gullible fools for $900,000..."

[lupie]

Saddleback needs $900,000 - I guess that makes them Brokeback.

hahahahahahaha

[truthandlife]

Rick Warren calls anti-gay bill in Uganda 'un-Christian'

The Rev. Rick Warren, possibly the most influential current pastor in the USA, has joined progressive pastors in speaking out against the so-called Uganda "gay death bill" and any rumors that he's ever supported it or anyone associated with it.

[MrB]

Besides, anyone familiar with the “Emergent Church” movement, and its biblical name, the apostate church,

wouldn’t send Warren a dime anyway.

[lupie]

Rick Warren’s church was not always a mushy brand of Christianity. Many of his early congregants were former members of the local Presbyterian church, who left when the Presbyterians began to ordain women. Yes, women, on top of the fact that the local Presbyterian minister got a divorce. The women at Warren’s church were the ones that campaigned against the mention of witches and fairy tales in school books and against action figures that they claimed were Satanic. Oh, and I knew some of them that didn’t allow rock and roll music in the house or car.

Interesting. Do you know if they still attend? If not, do they say much about him?

[usconservative]

The church does not make its financial information public, so it’s impossible to tell just how big of a hole in the boat this $900,000 represents. A spokeswoman for Warren said the church does not release detail on its finances, so it’s hard to put the shortfall in context.

Any Church that does not fully disclose its finances and how it spends the money it is given does not deserve your or my financial support.

I say that as a member of a large Church that does disclose how much it takes in, what its expenses are, what the salaries of those who work for the church are, the missions and charities supported, and its basic "keep the lights" on expenses.

Any Church that doesn't do the same has something to hide, period. What is Warren doing with the millions of dollars that flow into that Church? Until he discloses, his "congregation" ought to withhold money.

[truthandlife]

Pastor Rick Warren will Address a Muslim Group This Weekend (6/03/09)

Excerpt:

At a recent event, Warren told a group of Muslims, "You don't have to see eye to eye to walk hand in hand." Listen, Rick Warren is a PASTOR. He is supposed to be a messenger of the GOSPEL. He is NOT a politician!!! The Gospel of Jesus Christ is not something you water down or compromise. It is not about being politically correct because the eternal souls of men are at stake. There is no "walking hand in hand" with Muslims! They are on the wide road to destruction while born-again Believers are on that narrow road to Glory! Muslims need to understand that they have bought a 1400-year-old lie from hell, and when they die, their souls will burn in the flames of hell for all eternity unless they turn from the lies of Islam and embrace faith in Jesus Christ and the Truth of the Bible!!!

Warren is a case study in the word "compromise." He embraces the damnable ecumenical movement that seeks to unite people of all beliefs, meaning Christians are expected to "compromise" and abandon the Absolute Truth of the Bible! His infamous book, The Purpose Driven Church, was endorsed by Leonard Sweet, a firm New Age Movement advocate. Warren hired Ken Blanchard to come to Saddleback to help train people how to be effective leaders.

[SteveAustin]

I agree with your point on Warren’s forum. Warren pretty much tore Obama apart in a nice way. Got out of him that line where Obama says “abortion is above my pay grade”. That was probably the only public event during the campaign where Obama got hard questions and stammered a lot.

$900,000 is not a huge number compared with their budget. What Warren is trying to do here is avoid having to layoff more church staff. Most churches in the US have laid off employees the past year to deal with the downturn.

[Tzfat]

Some speculate the rich young ruler was the future Apostle Paul.

Why would you care about what others speculate? Doesn't Scripture tell us what we need to know?

We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. 2Cor 10:5

[reagan_fanatic]

I would not attend a church that fails to openly disclose the financials on a regular basis

I have to agree with that. It would seem to me that a church would have something to hide by not disclosing its finances. Not exactly a move that builds trust, is it?

As far as asking for money, I have no problem with that. Churches survive on tithes, so it only makes sense when donations are down to ask for more, as long as they don't pull an Oral Roberts-like stunt in the process.

[vimto]

Yes indeed. I am paid 3 days wages by my small but delightful flock in a working class, elderly community.

Every penny is accounted for and we publish our accounts.

I am bemused by these mega churches not least because I could grow the church significantly if only I went soft on the Gospel.

Currently reading ‘This Little Church Stayed Home’ by Gary Gilley - with a chapter about the Purpose Driven Church and its lightness of touch on the scriptures through ‘the Message’. Sad really, so many led astray.

So I ask only that he see the Gospel light and preach it with all his heart.

[HiTech RedNeck]

The key phrase is “against the knowledge of God.” If it were true it wouldn’t add anything more than an interesting detail, and if it were false nobody has held it up as doctrine.

The Greek word often translated as “speculations” has no exact English equivalent, if you were unaware. An equally plausible rendition is “imaginations.” Stuff that is made up for its own sake.

[Tzfat]

The Greek word often translated as “speculations” has no exact English equivalent, if you were unaware. An equally plausible rendition is “imaginations.” Stuff that is made up for its own sake.

Is there something in this speculation that edifies? The world is not lacking in fables, nor those interested - the Gnostic Gospels are evidence of that.

[Tzfat]

The Greek word often translated as “speculations” has no exact English equivalent, if you were unaware. An equally plausible rendition is “imaginations.” Stuff that is made up for its own sake.

Is there something in this speculation that edifies? The world is not lacking in fables, nor those interested - the Gnostic Gospels are evidence of that.

[HiTech RedNeck]

It might expand our mind a bit to what qualifies as a “ruler,” a “big shot” if you will. Many of the stories told about Jesus’ reactions to things fit patterns in our everyday lives, but not always with a precise dictionary match. The idea of being a ruler is opposite from that of being a servant of all. Paul was certainly in a position to throw his influential weight around before he believed. So he could have been it. Whether he was it doesn’t matter, as nobody preaches that.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Oh, and you beg the question.

[My Favorite Headache]

Exactly