Posted on 12/27/2009 8:41:50 AM PST by rellimpank
Peace on earth, good will toward men. Fine sentiments. But as citizens of a republic, can we really assume we'll be held forever blameless for the actions of our government?
Barack Obama, who if he were not in office would be applying for a Community Development Block Grant to stage anti-war rallies in Chicago, just authorized sending 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan. But it's OK: He promises to pull them out in 18 months -- soon enough to guarantee they can't actually accomplish anything.
A few hundred of these young American men will be sent home in coffins or with their legs blown off. A few thousand Afghans will get blowed up real good by our Predator drones and newer, follow-up flying robots, in a military enterprise that could only have been dreamed up by someone who's spent too much time playing Dungeons and Dragons in his dormitory
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Blood on BO’S hands if he is not going to give our troops what they need he will cause more of them to die if he is not going to give them what they need he should bring them home he is not worth dying for.
Vin ends this piece saying : “Bring the boys home.”
So he’s agreeing with Medea Benjamin and Code Pink.
What is the goal? What does winning mean there? We started this thing with the goal of getting Osama, and now we are stuck in an perpetual low-level guerilla war. If we think we are going to turn Afghanistan into a civilized place, we are delusional. Karzai is a corrupt thug.
We should have gone in, killed a bunch of terrorists in those mountains and left. What we are doing now is a waste of our good people and our money.
I would have to agree especially since obama won’t give our troops what they need. It also should be noted that conservatives did not believe in nation building before and it is costing us a fortune for those corrupt people.
As we’re well aware, the baby-killing, sodomite marching, military hating left isn’t known for winning wars. Afghanistan will not be an exception as long as ObaMAO, Nancy Pervertosi and Harry Weed are in charge.
Since the majority of neocons admit that our actions in the Middle East are predominantly about protecting Israel, how about we send troops and occupy Israel? We could call them our 51st state.
US anti-drug effort in Afghanistan criticized
The State Department’s internal watchdog on Wednesday criticized the agency’s nearly $2 billion anti-drug effort in Afghanistan for poor oversight and lack of a long-term strategy.
The department’s inspector general said the Afghanistan counter-narcotics program is hampered by too few personnel and rampant corruption among Afghan officials.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091223/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_us_afghanistan_drugs
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And we're killing wonderful (for the most part), young, strong military people to satisfy the "politics" of old, tired, "out of ideas", lying, cheating, brain-dead politicians.
Gotta stop it NOW!
I fully and completely support the military....I do not in any way support the military actions now taking place in Af-gan-ee-stan.
And....this is not a war!!!! It has never been declared or voted so by congress.
If we are to keep the terrorist from again taking over the country and using it as their headquarters we MUST fight and win. There is NO Peace unless one wins as has always been the case as was stated and directed by The Creator. And his son: “Matthew: 34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.”
Look. There have always been pacifists within our population. They’ve been there for a long time and their numbers are greater than most people realize. To my everlasting shame, I have a brother that subscribes to this “feel good” foolishness.
Those of us that do get it, should not be surprised that there will always be those that never will. They are sheep, and out of piety we generally take care of them when the roof falls in on them. Useful idiots? Not really. They are hardly beneficial, though we can’t go Darwinian on them. We’re the responsible members of the family.
No, he's agreeing with the founders who warned about entangling alliances and getting ensnared in foreign wars.
Americans who are against entangling alliances and world policing are not "pacifists" but true champions of national defense. If you want to support Obama's War with your own personal blood and treasure, knock yourself. All I ask is that you keep your mitts off my wallet. "Responsiblity" does not mean stealing other peoples money.
The Prince of Peace did not come to earth to serve "democratic" empire builders or statist politicians like Bush or Obama. He had a higher purpose. You only insult his name when you associate his message with the current policy of world policing, corrupt power politics, and nation building.
“If you want to support Obama’s War with your own personal blood and treasure, knock yourself.”
My family, and I, already have. You’re welcome.
Such anachronistic logic might have worked when America was a backwater. No more. Lest you haven’t noticed, things have changed in the last 200+ years.
Don’t worry. The adults in the crowd will continue to protect those that can’t, or won’t, accept their responsibility for the common defense. As I said, there will always be those that won’t, so it is good that there are those that will.
What was accomplished by your efforts?
The adults in the crowd will continue to protect those that can’t, or won’t, accept their responsibility for the common defense.
By leaving the borders wide open and scaling back border and interior enforcement, did the 'adults in charge' help or hurt the common defense?
“What was accomplished by your efforts?”
Is your question rhetorical, or are you actually interested in a litany of the benefits associated with cleaning out terrorist rat nests around the world? In general, I would prefer that we kick “their” butt, before they can kick ours....again. Appealing to the sociopath’s “better natures” is not efficacious, and never has been.
In fairness to your point re. greater border enforcement, you have a friend, or at least someone that agrees that we shouldn’t act like a bunch of suckers when it comes to the Vandals at the gate. Conversely, I would not go so far as to become an isolationist, lock the doors, and “hope” that the bad guys don’t notice us inside here. That would be poor situational awareness indeed.
Heads on pikes over the gate has worked in the past. A greater emphasis on such disincentives should be considered, if you really want to beef up our borders. ;-)
Meanwhile, we play patsy-cake with the sources of their funding, i.e.: Saudi Arabia and the opium growers in Afghanistan, and ignore the rat nests right here inside our borders.
Conversely, I would not go so far as to become an isolationist, lock the doors, and “hope” that the bad guys don’t notice us inside here. That would be poor situational awareness indeed.
I'm talking about dropping border security, then encouraging illegal border crossing and rewarding the illegals and those who hire them, with financial incentives.
“I’m talking about dropping border security, then encouraging illegal border crossing and rewarding the illegals and those who hire them, with financial incentives.”
Our discussion is diverging. We are attempting to mix internal economic concerns, vs. defense against terrorism. To some, they may be one and the same. To me, they are oil and water. One will kill you quickly, while the other will sap your strength slowly.
Re-read your history. America was never a “backwater.” It was surrounded on all sides during most of the nineteenth century by hostile empires. I have no objection to being forced to pay for the common defenses. I try the line at world policing and nation building, however. What about you? Again, all I ask is that you don’t force my pay for Obama’s Wars?
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