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Routine Turned to Mayhem on Terror Flight
Wall Street Journal ^ | December 26, 2009 | Neal Boudette and Andy Pasztor

Posted on 12/26/2009 3:46:57 AM PST by reaganaut1

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To: SueRae

Well, he is off the mainland, and the govt. did say it was a terrorist attack, unlike Ft. Hood, where he ‘dithered.” Maybe he should play MORE golf, he does a lot less damage that way.


41 posted on 12/26/2009 6:22:50 AM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch ( T.G., global warming denier.)
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To: ops33

Delta now owns Northwest.


42 posted on 12/26/2009 6:26:46 AM PST by livius
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To: bgill
I would start by looking at others who had one-way tickets paid for with cash.

I would start by making it the same to buy a ticket as to rent a car, having to pay for it with a credit card.

The one-way, paid for with cash ticket would be a thing of the past.

43 posted on 12/26/2009 6:29:33 AM PST by jwparkerjr
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To: pnh102
Everyone in Israel gets the third degree. My Wife and I flew to Israel back in 2000 on their national Airline, El Al. All the passengers were separated and given individual interviews.

Needless to say, ALL our papers had to be in order. We were traveling as part of a tourist group, and even that didn't relieve us the obligation of passing through their security before boarding the plane.

If I remember correctly, all members of the tour had to be registered a few weeks ahead of the tour to give Israel time to conduct background check. A U.S.passport alone was not enough, everyone including the tour organizer who lead about ten tours yearly had to go through security.

I was amazed while traveling throughout Israel at all the armed soldiers. Even individual soldiers traveling alone were armed. I never felt threatened by the armed troops and I was very glad that they were armed. ready and able to respond if needed.

44 posted on 12/26/2009 6:31:40 AM PST by dglang
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To: reaganaut1
The passenger who subdued the terrorist is a hero, and I salute him.

A hero, no doubt. I only hope he got a piece of the SOB in the process.

45 posted on 12/26/2009 6:47:41 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Apple Blossom
The passengers didn’t actually get to beat on him, but he was put in a headlock...does that count?

Only if given a few nubbies (hint: ask any 5 year old).

46 posted on 12/26/2009 6:51:52 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: reaganaut1

So the terrorist is now a prisoner, in a US hosipital, getting first rate medical care. He probably already has a lawyer, which we pay for.. and has his Miranda rights, so he can’t be questioned to see if he’s part of a plot to say, maybe bring down another 6-8 planes this holiday weekend...I wonder if this will impact on the plan to bring the bad guys from Gitmo..


47 posted on 12/26/2009 6:54:26 AM PST by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: highlander_UW
There was a pop

Anybody here with explosive experience? What kind of explosive device would emit a 'POP' ? and then some smoke.

Any devices that are ignited by an open flame?

48 posted on 12/26/2009 6:56:44 AM PST by jd777
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To: suijuris

Well, THEY can KMA. I am a taxpaying American Citizen that has security clearance. So once again “THEY” can KMA.


49 posted on 12/26/2009 8:21:53 AM PST by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: Paige

These “homegrown” terrorist have several things in common. They are highly educated, have their own money resources, have communicated their radicalism on the internet, they are known as radical to their friends, and they are all muslim. Seems to me that is a profile that should be worked.
Also seems that the Muslim community could help by ID’ing those known verbal radicals. If you talk to any University Muslim moderate, he or she will be able to tell you who among the students are “radical” and fundamental. They should be thrown out of the country.


50 posted on 12/26/2009 8:44:48 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: reaganaut1
Remember when jack azz Michael Moore said that if the civilians on the 9/11 planes had been black they would have fought back?
BTW - Has anybody hear from the "Flying Imams" ?
51 posted on 12/26/2009 9:05:05 AM PST by Kid Shelleen (Keep your socialized health care off my body !!)
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To: Oldexpat
The ‘student’ was on the NO FLY LIST. Is our government weakened this quickly with Obama in office? With all the work law enforcement has put into protecting the American Citizens for over six years, in less than one year has Obama used his minions to weaken our security?

As for who the enemy is, a poll was done last year ...out of 1.6 BILLION Muslim over 25% of them are radicals...do the math and then you try to pinpoint who the enemy is and isn't.... 091101 taught me all I needed to know about Islam. If that makes me a bigot, then I am a bigot.

52 posted on 12/26/2009 9:10:28 AM PST by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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53 posted on 12/26/2009 9:31:05 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Paige

He wasn’t on the no-fly list. He was an a terrorism watch list. But there appears to be another Gorelick wall in place which keeps information on different types of watch lists from being shared across departments.


54 posted on 12/26/2009 1:04:57 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: livius
Making a recording seems to be a standard part of their technique nowadays.

It's strategic overkill - but it's how the little creeps think... Don't you feel there's something inherently evil about an organization with that much money that purposely uses techniques that cause their own people to die? Do they want to hear the screams? Their "man" was burned - did they want a "close up"? These are sick perverts. Something is going on that we really don't understand.

It's like the story of the street bombing where two innocent children were put in a car to be blown up - and Americans noticed it because the town got quiet while all the subhuman monsters were quiet - watching and waiting for the young children to die a horrible death.

55 posted on 12/26/2009 2:18:18 PM PST by GOPJ (Journalists as BaghdadBobLite - Global Warming Scientists as ElmerGantry - what's happening?)
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To: GOPJ
These are sick perverts. Something is going on that we really don't understand.

I agree. There is something so evil at the heart of Islam that it's hard for us to comprehend it. There's no way we can understand a "religion" that boasts about its love for death and regards every human being as simply fodder for its onward devouring march.

56 posted on 12/26/2009 4:50:23 PM PST by livius
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To: piasa

The reports that came in today stated the Terrorist ‘was’ on Homeland Security’s “NO-FLY LIST”.


57 posted on 12/26/2009 8:51:43 PM PST by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: Paige

The latest I read was that he was on a “watch” list but not the “no fly” list. But then how did he obtain a multi-pass visa?

Also, the father alerted the son’s radicalism to U.S. authorities. Apparently, our system does not have a way to respond appropriately to such an alert.


58 posted on 12/26/2009 11:42:40 PM PST by The Doctor ("They work for us. Take back government from those we can't trust.")
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To: The Doctor

This all took place because according to the Obama Administration there was any such thing as Terrorism.

The ‘man caused disaster’ on the flight is now considered Terrorism. (sarc)

Imagine if this kook had been successful, this would have opened up Pandora’s box.

As for the no fly list, I’ll take the hit and say “Watch” list. Sorry, I shouldn’t have jumped the gun, so to speak, on this one.

Be Blessed


59 posted on 12/27/2009 5:21:31 AM PST by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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