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Debt-laden Japan shocked by £630bn spree to ‘save lives’ [$1.01 trillion]
The Times (UK) ^ | December 25, 2009 | Leo Lewis and David Robertson

Posted on 12/25/2009 6:19:58 PM PST by UAConservative

Yukio Hatoyama, the new Japanese Prime Minister, has stunned a nation already mired in huge public debt by unveiling the country’s biggest ever postwar budget: a 92.3 trillion yen (£630 billion) spending spree aimed at “saving people’s lives”.

The unprecedented budget, which supposedly shifts Japan’s fiscal spending focus “from concrete to lives”, comes amid rising concern about the solidity of sovereign debt in the world’s second-largest economy.

The new budget will require additional debt issuance of Y44.3 trillion — within the Government’s expected band, but still at a level that will raise Japan’s debt-to-GDP ratio to nearly 195 per cent.

Of foremost concern, analysts for Nomura said, is that Japanese tax revenues are expected to fall to Y37.40 trillion this year, the lowest that they have been since 1984. It was, analysts said, a watershed moment — the first time that new debt issuance has exceeded tax revenues since the Second World War.

Mr Hatoyama said: “We were just able to stay at a level in which we can maintain fiscal discipline.”

Mr Hatoyama swept to power in August with grand promises that the era of wasteful public spending would end. Japan’s unnecessary and notoriously expensive “roads to nowhere” public works projects would be curtailed and the money diverted to supporting beleaguered households.

(Excerpt) Read more at business.timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Japan
KEYWORDS: inflation; japan; pokulus
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Mr Hatoyama swept to power in August with grand promises that the era of wasteful public spending would end. Japan’s unnecessary and notoriously expensive “roads to nowhere” public works projects would be curtailed and the money diverted to supporting beleaguered households.

Japan feeling the same effects of Mr. Hopey-Changey. Trust us Tokyo, we know how you feel.

1 posted on 12/25/2009 6:20:01 PM PST by UAConservative
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To: UAConservative

WTF is going on??? This is like the old B movie sci fi films where aliens take over the bodies of the local leadership.

The question is answered. Insanity is contagious.


2 posted on 12/25/2009 6:23:29 PM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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The problem with many countries building up massive goverment debt is that eventually you have to pay the piper. It does no good to kick it down the road because that is only delaying the inevitable. The way so many countries is building up debt these days that the bubble is going to burst sooner rather than later. I see a day of reckoning close at hand. Taxes will never be able to cover the debt. Excessive inflation will hit and when it does there will be worldwide revolutions and citizens storming their governments en masse a la the American revolution which as its battle cry was “Taxation without representation is tyranny!” This will be the cause selebre throughout the world and I think it will be coming very very soon. My guess it will start in either Asia or Europe and when it does the pols in Washington DC are gonna be scared shitless that it will be contagious here.


3 posted on 12/25/2009 6:31:39 PM PST by Ev Reeman
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To: UAConservative
Japan’s unnecessary and notoriously expensive “roads to nowhere” public works projects would be curtailed and the money diverted to supporting beleaguered households.

At least roads to no-where can lead to the development of undeveloped land.

Social spending only leads to dependence and in the end more social spending.

4 posted on 12/25/2009 6:36:35 PM PST by Pontiac
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To: Psalm 144

Fedzilla respects no borders. Everywhere he goes, spending and chaos follow in his wake.


5 posted on 12/25/2009 6:38:15 PM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: UAConservative

looks like YEN is no longer safe haven. Those who run for USD to YEN will get burned as well. Gold/silver is the only choice


6 posted on 12/25/2009 6:39:12 PM PST by 4rcane
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Gold/silver is the only choice

Not so. Lead is better.

7 posted on 12/25/2009 6:40:43 PM PST by Clint Williams (America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: Ev Reeman

I generally agree, but I think the revolution will more closely resemble the French Revolution, as far as the various Old Regimes may experience fleeting chills at the backs of their necks.


8 posted on 12/25/2009 6:42:38 PM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: Clint Williams

Especially if it is a lead-copper-brass alloy ;)


9 posted on 12/25/2009 6:43:12 PM PST by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: UAConservative

Other countries, (Japan appears to be merely ahead of the curve) are engaging in competitive devaluations of their currencies to make sure that their exports remain viably priced in a world economy where the US dollar is devalued vs. their currencies.

The US dollar hit levels of just above 85 yen to the dollar, before rebounding to where it is now (about 91 yen to the USD). The US dollar is at about 1.43 Euros, etc, etc.

The recent flap with sovereign credit in Dubai and Greece sent a bunch of traders flocking back into the US debt markets (at the very short end of the curve), but that won’t last forever.

Put yourself in the shoes of (insert export-to-US dependent nation here): The US dollar has been sliding. The US is issuing debt into the world markets at a ferocious clip.

You have two choices:

1. Follow the path of “sound money” - and take your lumps as your export-driven economy slides ever deeper into economic spin/stall, because as your currency appreciated vs. the USD, your exports become more expensive in the US...

or

2. You follow the US lead. You print money, sell debt (and remember that all debt issuers are competing for the same pot of money, ie “what is left out there to invest”) and devalue your own currency as a result. You thereby slow or thwart the devaluation of the USD vs. your currency and keep your exports to the US affordable.

We’re quickly passing into a never-never land of macro-economics at the level of sovereign balance sheets. Sovereign debt ratings quickly lose their value when everyone is issuing debt at unsustainable levels...


10 posted on 12/25/2009 6:58:49 PM PST by NVDave
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To: 4rcane
Those who run for USD to YEN will get burned as well.

I've been attempting to explain how fiat money and massive debts will destroy any currency (including yen or USD), especially some of my close family who want to try currency trading. They see the cost of silver and gold and want to avoid it, but that's the price of true security in investment.

11 posted on 12/25/2009 7:01:33 PM PST by UAConservative (Audemus Jura Nostra Defendere)
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a 92.3 trillion yen (£630 billion) spending spree aimed at “saving people’s lives”.

Another member of the "what we were sent here to do" club?

12 posted on 12/25/2009 7:08:02 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: UAConservative

Jack Benny was in England once and asked a shopkeeper how much a certain item cost. The shopkeeper said 2p. Jack thought about it and thought about it and then thought about it some more until finally the shopkeeper said, “Are you going to buy it or not?” Jack looked at the shopkeeper and said, “2p or not 2p...that is the question.”


13 posted on 12/25/2009 7:09:14 PM PST by Ev Reeman
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To: Ev Reeman
My guess it will start in either Asia or Europe

I gotta go with Europe myself. Berloscotti (sp?) and the Pope being attacked in one week portends dark days for European leaders (or leaders who happen to be in Europe).

14 posted on 12/25/2009 7:12:13 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Psalm 144

Japan is another “modern” country who has a nominal democracy, but in fact, it is impossible change.


15 posted on 12/25/2009 7:20:59 PM PST by PGR88
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To: UAConservative; FromLori; TigerLikesRooster; rabscuttle385; dennisw
The pols always choose the second option.

"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as a result of a voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved."

~~Ludwig Von Mises

16 posted on 12/25/2009 7:48:53 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Ev Reeman

C 16


17 posted on 12/25/2009 7:50:25 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee
The pols always choose the second option.

Yep. They'll try to keep the music playing for as long as possible even though there ain't a damned chair in sight.

18 posted on 12/25/2009 7:52:11 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

They are busy preparing their own rat lines and lifeboats, in secure compounds with lots of diesel for the generators.


19 posted on 12/25/2009 8:02:06 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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in secure compounds with lots of diesel for the generators.

Yea, like that'll help.

20 posted on 12/25/2009 8:07:34 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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