Pagan Propaganda: The Other Attack on Christmas

American Thinker ^ | December 24, 2009 | Selwyn Duke

[TNdandelion]

That’s what the Catholic Church says. My ancestors were horribly persecuted by that church so I don’t believe everything they say about who runs it. I’m sure you’ll understand.

[TNdandelion]

I think that depends on who you spoke with. The Puritans most certainly did not celebrate Christmas and actually outlawed christmas celebrations in Boston during the 2nd half of the 17th century. Many Protestants (especially non-conformists) did not celebrate Christmas as a religious holiday until the 1800's. It was not even considered a "significant" holiday for this nation until the 1800's.

Those that did celebrate Christmas were usually of certain immigrant groups (Dutch, etc) or certain church groups. As it is, the secular traditions took hold before the religious traditions did. I've also studied the subject. ;)

[Petronski]

It is not necessary for you to believe it.

It remains true nonetheless.

[TNdandelion]

I have no desire to destroy your traditions. But I do find some comments and sayings such as, “Jesus is the reason for the season,” a bit sanctimonious and preachy. I think it should read, “Jesus is MY reason for the season.” Food, family and giving is mine. I say Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas. Neither bother me. But some, unfortunately, want to push their religious traditions as if there’s no other reason to celebrate at this time of year. You want tolerance? Show tolerance.

[narses]

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[TNdandelion]

And sadly, the Church’s history makes its credibility quite small. For many of it’s followers, it doesn’t matter.

[Petronski]

That’s quite a grudge you’re carrying around there. You must have a strong back.

[TNdandelion]

It’s not a grudge, Petronski. I don’t see any logic in following the religions of men who commit evil in the name of God. Can you?

[Earthdweller]

Part of my ancestors were horrible persecuted by the Catholic church as well...but the church is made up of imperfect men. Don't persecute God for what men do.

[Petronski]

I don’t see any logic in following the religions of men who commit evil in the name of God. Can you?

Of course not. That's why I follow the religion of Christ in the Church He founded for us.

[Earthdweller]

Your witness is improving. God Bless you and Merry Christmas.

[TNdandelion]

Mmmmhmmm.

[Earthdweller]

Mmmmm is not an answer. Men are imperfect. God is the example...men don’t always follow.

[Petronski]

Your witness is improving.

Well, you know how to get to Carnegie Hall, right?

Merry Christmas...Dominus Vobiscum

[Earthdweller]

I’m not in it for the show brother...I’m not getting paid for this gig.

[Petronski]

...I’m not getting paid for this gig.

Know anyone who is?

[Earthdweller]

Not really...save maybe the fake bullies and fascists attending Church for show...in all religions. (Don't get your sacraments in a wad).

[markomalley]

A good post. What’s Xenia’s new id?

Uri’el-2012

[AnalogReigns]

Show me a “follower” of Christ who does NOT believe the Nicean Creed of AD 325, as summarizing key points of holy Scripture, and I’ll show you a heretic...

whether he’s a blood descendant of Abraham or not (”...do not begin to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham.” - Jesus Christ, or Yeshua Moshiach, in Luke 3:8

Those who have a 2000 year tradition of rejecting Yeshua, should learn from those who have 2000 years of faithfulness to Him behind them.

[Uri’el-2012]

Show me a “follower” of Christ who does NOT believe the Nicean Creed of AD 325, as summarizing key points of holy Scripture, and I’ll show you a heretic...

whether he’s a blood descendant of Abraham or not (”...do not begin to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham.” - Jesus Christ, or Yeshua Moshiach, in Luke 3:8

Those who have a 2000 year tradition of rejecting Yeshua, should learn from those who have 2000 years of faithfulness to Him behind them.

You are aware that YHvH and His salvation rebuked
the Pharisees for replacing the Word of G-d with their Traditions ?

See Isa. 29:13; Matt. 15:2f, 6; Mk. 7:5, 8, 13; Col. 2:8

When you impugn the Word of G-d with your traditions,
you are rejecting YHvH and His salvation.

This rebuke was repeated for the gentiles by a Pharisee trained under Gamaliel: Paul of Tarsus.

NAsbU Colossians 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy
and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary
principles of the world, rather than according to Christ.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach