Posted on 12/23/2009 6:08:15 AM PST by rabscuttle385
Like we would believe that conservatism is hurt by actually challenging the president to prove he is eligible under the US constitution.
All he has to do is prove he is eligible with his original documents and the greatest threat to his presidency with vanish like the morning dew.
BUT HE WON’T DO IT.....
This bloke is an idiot who does not understand the difference between Natural Born Citizen, Native Born Citizen, Naturalised Citizen, Citizen. The Supreme Court has never decided an interpretation of Natural Born Citizen, cos the question only arises in relation to Presidential qualification.
Think of it as "retroactive jihad".
BUT HE WON’T DO IT.....”
Incorrect.
BHO won't bother to try and prove anything to your personal level of satisfaction.
And it stands that BHO has however proven this already to the satisfaction of anyone that matters.
Just because you choose not to accept something, doesn't change the reality of it.
My level of satisfaction is very low.
But the point is that if Obama wanted to soundly crush the hopes of everyone that opposes him the easiest way to do just that is prove beyond the shadow of any doubt that he is eligible to be president.
That requires him to show his original documentation and not a computer generated summery created in 2008.
Eventually the truth will come out and the reckless speed by which Obama has marched this country into socialism will be revealed as a desperate measure by an ineligible leader.
This is a great read on what BHO, through his attorney Bob Bauer, has provided as evidence that BHO is eligible to serve as POTUS..
>> Why doesn’t Obama show us all his Smallpox Vaccination? <<
He should be weary of people sending him blankets for Christmas.....
More worried about the BLATANT FRAUD he may have committed in receiving federal student aid by claiming to be an Indonesia citizen when he went to college....
If Obama can skate by after possibly bilking other REAL INDONESIANS out of federal student aid, then why can’t someone claim their child is from another country and apply for the same sort of federal student aid?????
This pisses me off the most as I had to pay my own way through college, this BOZO said how tough his life was and then coasted by on our dime while claiming to not be a citizen to get said funds and then thinks he can Re-claim his citizen ship when it is convenient for his Career....
I think that you are correct. I've spent a couple hours or so at google and I cannot find the webpages where I initially read about that online; however, I did find that silly API story in many of the searches I attempted --- so what I believe occurred is that again & again & again, when reading about Barack Obama not releasing his long form birth certificate that I'd read quite a few times that "Michelle said... blah/blah" --- because I found one instance which rang a bell, and it still has to do with the FAKE API story, something about Michelle saying there was NO LAW which prevented her husband from becoming prez.
I am pretty positive that you are correct, that while I was reading about the Certificate Scandal, that I read many postings about Michelle, which had to do with the phoney FAKE API story, but at the time I read the posts, they didn't mention that "Michelle said..." in reference to the fake planted API nonsense.
And nobody can place him at Columbia, nobody.
Who are you trying to kid?
The four major players in the birther movement, Taitz, Kreep, Berg and Donofrio all maintain that Obama's lack of eligibility has nothing to do with where he was born. Taitz, Kreep and Donofrio argue he's ineligible by virtue of his Kenyan father and Berg posits that Obama never "re-naturalized" after becoming an Indonesian citizen (though Taitz has hedged her bets by submitting as evidence a pair of laughably bogus "Kenyan" birth certificates).
Obama could whip out a gold-plated long form BC signed by God himself and it wouldn't mollify these folks. So all this talk about "Free the Long Form!" isn't very sincere.
BUT HE WON’T DO IT.....
What would it solve besides dignifying the issue.
Some may find this educational:
Interestingly, Obama HIMSELF agrees that a Natural born American is “one born of American citizens” — plural!
He also — cleverly — muddies the water by conflating ‘Natural’ Born with ‘native’ born cetizen...they are not the same.
Exactly What IS a Natural Born Citizen?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEnaAZrYqQI
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“ERGO, Toad, Obama SENIOR was a British Citizen.
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I am talking about just because his father is a British citizen does not mean Obama cannot be a US citizen if he was born here and his mother was US. All this talk about just because his father was British means Obama cannot be US is pure bullsh*t spread by some of the most ignorant idiots on the Internet. Of course, I do not believe he was born in the US.
I bet the author believes in global warming and the tooth fairy.
Jamie Freeze: I feel that I have been too longsuffering in letting the Birther Movement receive simply a few caustic remarks and jabs from me. It's time for me to call a spade a spade. Here goes: If you believe that President Obama is NOT a natural-born citizen, then you are an incompetent idiot who is probably watching Glenn Beck while wearing a tin-foil hat. You probably think Obama's a Muslim too.
Hawaii doesn’t want to fess up cause that have a skeleton in their closet which they took money fraudulently from the Federal Government ....
And pigs can fly too.
Who are you trying to kid?
No one! I am quite honest about it, unlike you who only pretends to be a conservative and stick only to birther issues.
His original birth certificate is the key that either makes him a Natural Born Citizen or an ineligible fraud in any number of ways. But here is the big one, his original birth certificate is absolute proof his father was a foreigner, something the COLB does not do because it is only a facsimile of the last entries into his vital records.
Just as the COLB isn't good enough for military service or even softball leagues, it isn't enough for a court of law particularly when the eligibility of his presidency is before a court.
That's why it must be used in either case.
A. No one disputes Obama's father is a foreigner. This was a matter of record when he ran for the presidency and when he took the Oath of Office. His father's citizenship was contested or made an issue by none of Obama's primary or general election opponents.
B. Long form BCs don't list parents' citizenship status, only their place of birth (as volunteered by the parents). Meghan McCain's original BC lists a foreign country for the birth place of her father as well. Doesn't tell us anything about citizenship.
C. Parents' place of birth has no bearing whatsoever on natural born status despite the birthers wishing so desperately that this were not so.
Just as the COLB isn't good enough for military service or even softball leagues, it isn't enough for a court of law particularly when the eligibility of his presidency is before a court.
Not true. My original long form has been lost to history. When I needed a BC, the state of Colorado issued me a computer generated short form of the same format as the "Factcheck" COLB (this is the only form that Colorado will issue). It was sufficient to enlist in the military, get a passport and get married. Certified with a raised seal, this form is a perfectly legal document.
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