Democrats’ Health Bill Passes Key Senate Vote

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34498942/ns/politics-health_care_reform/ ^ | December 20th 2009

[Steelfish]

Democrats’ Health Bill Passes Key Senate Vote Republicans pledge to fight on despite losing early Monday

WASHINGTON - Senate Democrats’ health care overhaul passed a key test in a party-line vote early Monday, in a dramatic defeat for Republicans that put the legislation on track for Christmas-week passage.

In the run-up to the vote, the escalation in rhetoric was remarkable on both sides of an issue that has divided the two political parties for months.

"This process is not legislation. This process is corruption," said Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., referring to the last-minute flurry of dealmaking that enabled Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and the White House to lock in the 60 votes needed to approve the legislation.

Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island responded in near-Biblical terms. In a speech on the Senate floor, he said Republicans are embarked on a "no-holds barred mission of propaganda, obstruction and fear. ... There will be a reckoning. There will come a day of judgment about who was telling the truth."

First 60-vote test coming up Whatever else it was, the legislation represented the culmination of a year's work for Democrats, pressed by President Barack Obama to remake the nation's health care system.

[Democrat_media]

I guess you can't reply against the truth or my specific points I made so you attack me personally and you cry to others.LOL. That makes me think you are a democrat.You just like a liberal, call names to try to marginalize the messenger so that the message doesn't get through.

I just call it as I see it. And I see this movement of you “conservatives” who hate the GOP as helping the liberals who also hate the GOP to destroy the only viable opposition to the Marxist/Democrats. Tell me how these anti-GOP conservatives didn't cause the virtual destruction of the GOP, the only viable opposition to the Democrats.You sound just like liberals: all you do is attack the Republican party and any one that supports the GOP, with scurrilous, slanderous , lies. You anti-GOP conservatives are either democrats or puppets of the liberal media

I support the GOP because it is and has been the only viable opposition to the Democrats/Marxists and their socialist takeover of America. Not because of what you say that I support the liberals who call themselves Republicans like McCAin as these RINO’s are only about 14% of the Republicans. So you would have us throw away the baby with the bathwater to destroy the only thing that could stop the Democrats because of a few liberal lunatics decide to for political expediency to call themselves Republicans. Yes and that is what the liberals and the media do . You sound the same as liberals wanting to destroy the GOP so that the Democrats have a dictatorship, 60% of the votes in the Senate.

I wish I could be seminar poster whatever that is. I just post this off the top of my head and it would be great that someone else would be paying me for this. LOL. I see why the liberal media has been able to brainwash you anti-GOP “conservatives” so easily, you have no clue about anything and that so ridiculously paranoid omg LOL. I guess you believe in big foot and aliens to huh? Don't look now but there is seminar poster under your bed. LOL LOL LOL LOL.

[Munz]

bolsheviks

[livius]

If they’re Dems, “dirt” is practically a job recommendation. Who else but the Dems could proudly count as one of their leaders somebody whose gay male prostitute boyfriend was running a prostitution ring out of his official residence?

[Irisshlass]

Whatever...I have stated on here lets do what Nancy Reagan said, Just Say No. What did I get? Not one response. I’ve stated twice, everyone don’t go to work for a week, lets have a real teaparty. I saw the numbers, my insurance will triple under this plan. Everyone gets angry and complains, but we have no leadership...so we are sunk. Everyone is looking for direction, but we all have responsibilities and families to take care of. It comes done to are you going to put your way of life at stake to fight this. So it is take it and shut-up or wait till everyone is out in the streets, losing their jobs and houses until they wake up and by then it will be too late. After I’m forced to plan for this plan and taxes and cap and trade taxes, where is the money going to come from to look for medical types who will not participate. I am under the understanding this is forced, no option here. We are screwed and I feel like I’m living in Nazi Germany...where is an America I can escape too?

[Democrat_media]

“The liberal media puppet masters have made puppets out you “conservatives” that hate the GOP.”
Thank you for your excellent post and analysis. Unfortunately the volume and scope of the liberal media require great effort to overcome, even on an individual basis. Once again an illustration that the liberal politicians work in concert with the liberal media, creating, with Hollywood's help, whatever illusion is required to secure and maintain power.

Thank you. It is good to see that at least there are some people who are smart enough to see through the liberal media lies. Thank you for being a true conservative and patriot.

I'll reply more fully to your specific points when I have time. I have to work 12 hours a day to give up my money that government takes at the point of a gun from me . The government then uses my money and the money of the job creators to give "scientists" global warming grants, to support dead beat democrats who don't want to work, and to fund this massive government.

I support the GOP because it has been the only viable opposition to the Democrats/Marxists and their socialist takeover of America. These “conservatives” who hate the GOP can't see that they are puppets of the liberal media , helping to destroy the GOP , the only viable opposition to the Democrats/Marxists. And I've tried to make some of these here and other places see this but they are too brainwashed to see that they and their lack of support for the GOP helped the liberals achieve a democrat dictatorship, 60% of the votes in the Senate. These anti-GOP conservatives say the same thing liberals and the liberal mainstream media say, repeating the same old tired spin, and scurrilous, slanderous lies to demonize the GOP and anyone that supports the GOP.

The alliance of the liberal media, liberals and anti-GOP conservatives destroyed the GOP. So much so that now all we have is ourselves, the people to stop the Democrats/Marxists and their big government. God help us. May God give us the courage to do what we have to do to save America, our way of life, and freedom itself.

[Democrat_media]

I agree with this. I sometimes wonder why the Republicans even bother showing up to work. It seems like they can be serving their states better, but organizing townhalls and controlling public opinion, or simply educating people on this astrocity.

Thank you. It is good to see that at least there are some people who are smart enough to see through the liberal media lies. Thank you for being a true conservative and patriot.

I'll reply more fully to your specific points when I have time. I have to work 12 hours a day to give up my money that government takes at the point of a gun from me . The government then uses my money and the money of the job creators to give "scientists" global warming grants, to support dead beat democrats who don't want to work, and to fund this massive government.

I support the GOP because it has been the only viable opposition to the Democrats/Marxists and their socialist takeover of America. These “conservatives” who hate the GOP can't see that they are puppets of the liberal media , helping to destroy the GOP , the only viable opposition to the Democrats/Marxists. And I've tried to make some of these here and other places see this but they are too brainwashed to see that they and their lack of support for the GOP helped the liberals achieve a democrat dictatorship, 60% of the votes in the Senate. These anti-GOP conservatives say the same thing liberals and the liberal mainstream media say, repeating the same old tired spin, and scurrilous, slanderous lies to demonize the GOP and anyone that supports the GOP.

The alliance of the liberal media, liberals and anti-GOP conservatives destroyed the GOP. So much so that now all we have is ourselves, the people to stop the Democrats/Marxists and their big government. God help us. May God give us the courage to do what we have to do to save America, our way of life, and freedom itself.

[ponygirl]

I thought they would ensure that wouldn't happen by threatening doctors with stripping their medical licenses if they don't comply? Then if they are caught practicing, they can be imprisoned.

Not that it matters. We're imprisoned anyway. Like rats in a trap who suddenly look around and realize that the door just slammed down.

[devolve]

Hey Meekster!

Prepare for a non-cash economy!

Defund the crooked self-exempted bastards in DC!

[demshateGod]

I don’t have a tv.

Moderate Tyrant is the EU.

I know people in the military who don’t know anything about politics or the constitution but know where the checks come from. I wouldn’t count on them IF, they’re not the initiator of the revolution. If they’re not, we’ll be taken out one at a time. They’ll call us tax cheats, child abusers, and everything else.

I think our military would fall in line to put down a rebellion just like they fell in line with life threatening political correctness, or bombing Serbs in defense of Jihadis. They’ll be lied to. Many would leave, some would turn their weapons on their superiors, most would fall in line. I can’t be sure, just my opinion, and trying to avoid sentimental fantasy.

I think the most stouthearted patriot will be lulled to complicity by comfort. There will be few martyrs. That is, if we don’t have some established leadership involved.

And besides, I do think Revival is what we need, not Revolution.

[Sun]

“If we’re lucky to get treatment, it will be 3rd rate and cost 10 times as much as it does now.”

It’s not too late. The House and Senate bills still must merge, so keep fighting.

I call and email my senators and congressperson, and sometimes report what I said, and send it as a letter to the editor. Since they ignore me, I intend to publicly shame them.

[John S Mosby]

Share your feelings. If you look at the history of the founding fathers and the extreme risk they put themselves to revolt against Britain, it puts it in perspective. But a jaded, fat, dumb and happy populace will have to have things taken away for them to respond- which will happen when they realize they “can’t do... what do you mean can’t”— which might be about the time the doors are being locked. Intelligent people can see this, and we need them on our side to organize

[John S Mosby]

The medical people I know, all of them... are plenty pissed at all this, and they are working on ways to get around it. Their licensure is by the state, not the federals, so that’s one, and in the extreme one cardiologist told me they’d go black market, and they have the means to do it. Good men and women have to step up.

[TheThinker]

It’s just like the Democrats to ruin Christmas.

[John S Mosby]

We need revival, “onward Christian soldiers”. The military I know are former special ops— the smart ones. I’d agree with you if you’re thinking of the motor pool. The warriors will not take this lying down, and I think anyone with a family affected by these lying scum politicos will have a very useful reaction. Always will be some who are couch lards.. and they can work for the marxists.

[servantboy777]

Agree!

[MeekOneGOP]

Merry Christmas to you, PL !!

Great animation work ! :^D

[MeekOneGOP]

Thank YOU, Ma’am !! :)

Merry Christmas to you !

[potlatch]

Thank you Meek. I’ve been missing you and filled up your comments page something terrible, lol.

[MeekOneGOP]

Great post there, DV !! :^D

[LucyT]

You’re very welcome, MeekO.

Merry Christmas to you, too.