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Eurostar train services canceled indefinitely
Yahoo/AP ^

Posted on 12/20/2009 2:58:02 PM PST by nuconvert

LONDON – The only passenger rail link between Britain and the rest of Europe has been shut down indefinitely, Eurostar said Sunday, promising more travel misery for thousands of stranded passengers just before Christmas.

Services have been suspended since late Friday, when a series of glitches stranded five trains inside the Channel Tunnel and trapped more than 2,000 passengers for hours in stuffy and claustrophobic conditions. More than 55,000 passengers overall have been affected.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: britain; chunnel; england; eurostar; euroweenies; rail; train
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1 posted on 12/20/2009 2:58:02 PM PST by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert; All

Yet we should invest billions of dollars into trains..


2 posted on 12/20/2009 2:59:07 PM PST by KevinDavis (Can't Stop the Signal!)
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To: nuconvert
Could have something to do with this.
3 posted on 12/20/2009 3:01:37 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: KevinDavis

“The engineers on board have recommended strongly that, in light of further snowfalls that are happening tonight, we make some modifications to the trains on snow shields to stop snow being ingested into the power car,” he told the BBC.”

I understand the trains come out of the tunnels, but this seems like a very odd problem for them to encounter.


4 posted on 12/20/2009 3:08:39 PM PST by Dem Guard
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To: Willie Green

Why high speed rails in America is a bad idea...


5 posted on 12/20/2009 3:10:42 PM PST by KevinDavis (Can't Stop the Signal!)
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To: Steely Tom

I too wonder if the “official” story is just a cover, and the real problem is some kind of terror threat.

(pure speculation)


6 posted on 12/20/2009 3:16:05 PM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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I was doing the London Paris train when it got shut down last year due to some problem. What a nightmare..and that was only a short suspension. I can’t imagine what it will be like with an “indefinite suspension”. They told people who were relying on the service that they were working hard to get it going again.

This one sounds like a cover story.


7 posted on 12/20/2009 3:22:18 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: nuconvert
How many "Asians" are employed in Eurostar maintenance?

For those who don't know, the UK press has decided that Muslims, Pakistanis, etc. are now "Asians".


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

8 posted on 12/20/2009 3:28:53 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: KevinDavis
Why high speed rails in America is a bad idea...

Because once in ten years there's record snowfall? Yeah, that never happened on roads *LOL.
9 posted on 12/20/2009 3:39:37 PM PST by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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To: nuconvert
"The company [Eurostar] said Sunday it had traced the problem to "acute
weather conditions in northern France," which has seen its worst winter
weather in years."


10 posted on 12/20/2009 3:44:56 PM PST by Iron Munro (God is great - Beer is good - People are crazy.)
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To: RummyChick

Do they still have transchannel ferry service. I remember seeing the hydroplane “land” in Dover, a truly amazing sight. BTW, I think the hydroplane ferry and the chunnel are both superb engineering feats.


11 posted on 12/20/2009 3:45:31 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The CRU needs adult supervision.)
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I’m in London right now. My in-laws were taking the train on Wednesday to visit us for Christmas. I’m sure glad this happened before they got on it. I would have hated for them to get stuck in the Chunnel for hours, but it stinks that they
probably won’t be able to come for Christmas now.


12 posted on 12/20/2009 3:48:34 PM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: nuconvert

Union problems?


13 posted on 12/20/2009 3:50:24 PM PST by Mobties
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To: The Comedian
For those who don't know, the UK press has decided that Muslims, Pakistanis, etc. are now "Asians".

This usage of the word "asian" in Britain to refer to people from South Asia (including Indians and Pakistanis) goes back many decades, does not refer specifically to Muslims. and as far as I know, did not originate with the press.

It probably is related to the fact that for historical reasons, south asians in Britain greatly outnumber east asians.

As an example, in 1972, Idi Amin expelled Indians living in Uganda. But British headlines at the time said that he was expelling "asians".

14 posted on 12/20/2009 4:27:32 PM PST by wideminded
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To: nuconvert

The trains ran great for 15 years or so without an incident such as this, right? So freak weather caused problems. They will deal with it and move on.

By the way, I am a member of the “Mile Low” club ... you can guess based on context what that means ... :)


15 posted on 12/20/2009 4:41:24 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: nuconvert
Shades of Atlas?

Paging Miss Taggert, please pick up the white courtesy phone...

16 posted on 12/20/2009 5:36:42 PM PST by JasonC
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To: spodefly

I’m guessing you’re a British Submariner cabin boy.


17 posted on 12/20/2009 5:43:13 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: nuconvert; Fred Nerks
I read the entire thread article at its link and THIS IS SOME OF THE MOST BOGUS REPORTING I HAVE EVER SEEN.

Look, over 30 thousand people were effected, and 2000 people were trapped, yet nodescription was given as to why the trains stalled inside the chunnel, where it obviously was NOT snowing. WHY? Anyone readinng this and thinking it tells the whole story has got to be brain dead. Why were the trains stalled inside the chunnel where it WAS NOT snowing, due to snow elsewhere? Couldn't the trains have been moved out chunnel, and then put on a lay by set of rails? wHAT IS MISSING HERE?

18 posted on 12/20/2009 6:19:20 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA))
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Our nightly ‘news’ service says the problem was caused by the sudden difference in temperature, it was something like -20 outside of the tunnel, and 25 inside. Condensation resulted, electrical equipment failed...

Believe it or not? I have no idea...


19 posted on 12/20/2009 6:29:14 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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Eurostar cancels Chunnel trains after 2,500 trapped Date: 20 December 2009

By Hazel Mollison

EUROSTAR has cancelled all its services for today as the company strives to avoid a repeat of the chaos that saw thousands of passengers trapped in the Channel Tunnel in freezing conditions for up to 13 hours.

A spokesman said it would run test trains to get to the bottom of the problems that caused widespread disruption but would not run services.

Last night, another Eurostar train from Paris to London, carrying 750 passengers, broke down after it came out of the tunnel on the UK side. Another train was dispatched to take the passengers to their destination.

The company has promised a “proper and full inquiry” after 2,500 passengers were trapped in the tunnel on Friday night. Four trains broke down due to severe temperature fluctuations and passengers have been promised compensation.

Meanwhile, road and air passengers in Scotland face further disruption with up to six inches of snow predicted to fall on the highest areas tonight. Several main roads were closed yesterday following blizzards, while police and ambulance crews dealt with dozens of road accidents around the country.

Forecasters have warned that temperatures could fall as low as –13C in the run-up to Christmas.

Braemar in Aberdeenshire is expected to experience the lowest temperature on Tuesday night.

In the Eurotunnel incident, passengers were trapped for up to 13 hours after trains between London and Paris broke down. Angry travellers arriving in London yesterday morning said they had been left in the tunnel with no power, air conditioning, food or water.

The breakdowns occurred when the high-speed trains moved from cold outside temperatures in northern France into the warmer tunnel.

A rescue locomotive and a shuttle train were used to move passengers out of the 32-mile tunnel.

“We’re very sorry that they’ve had such a disrupted journey,” Richard Brown, Eurostar’s chief executive said. “We’ve been getting people home as quickly as we can but they have had very bad journeys.”

Heavy snowfalls also caused chaos for air travellers yesterday. Gatwick and Luton Airports were closed for hours, while budget airline easyJet said it had cancelled many of its flights.

Met Office spokesman Ian Robinson said the freezing spell would last until Christmas Eve, adding: “It is still too difficult to say what will happen on Christmas Day.”

http://news.scotsman.com/uk/Eurostar-cancels-Chunnel-trains-after.5926282.jp

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Could it be that the Hopenchangen press can’t broach the political correctness barrier to truly report the problem in full , a temperature difference between the below zero external temperatures and non global warming snow fall versus the warm chunnel temperatures as the cause of the breakdowns?

At least the Scots have the truth in print.


20 posted on 12/20/2009 6:37:46 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA))
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