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Senate still needs 60 votes for cloture on Obamacare even after House-Senate "conference"
RCP ^ | 12-20-2009 | Out of control Mod

Posted on 12/20/2009 10:43:59 AM PST by Admin Moderator

Pass it on!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; cloture; reid
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To: Admin Moderator

bttt


21 posted on 12/20/2009 10:56:39 AM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: jessduntno

The header is correct. After conf, the new bill must again secure 60 votes to shut down debate.

Ken Conrad admitted this morning that if the House doesn’t come close to the Senate bill, the 60 fragile coalition in the House will collapse.

The RATS can’t get the monstrosity thu the House without Stupak, and they probably can’t get it through the Senate with it.


22 posted on 12/20/2009 10:56:46 AM PST by mwl8787
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To: Admin Moderator
Salient point;

"Let me repeat it: I reserve the right to vote against the next cloture vote if there are material changes to this agreement in the conference report. And I will vote against it if that is the case."

Probably RE: MY BRIBE was left off the memo....

23 posted on 12/20/2009 10:57:27 AM PST by jessduntno ("The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.")
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To: mwl8787

Sorry - the fragile 60 coalition in the Senate


24 posted on 12/20/2009 10:58:09 AM PST by mwl8787
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To: Admin Moderator

Thanks.


25 posted on 12/20/2009 10:58:26 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Admin Moderator

Interesting, thank you for the info and link.


26 posted on 12/20/2009 10:59:44 AM PST by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: moose2004

Welcome!


27 posted on 12/20/2009 11:01:28 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: KarlInOhio
This could be very expensive if a few more senators start having "second thoughts" after seeing the bribe Nelson got for his vote.

Exactly. And the House rats are even more piggish - - they'll want a bunch of tasty morsels, too. All the rats will be knocking each other over at the tax dollar trough. This will be like watching 300 sharks tear apart a wounded seal.

28 posted on 12/20/2009 11:03:13 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: moose2004
I've been wondering ... any chance that someone will try to get cute, having seen the giveaways, try to renege/deal a new hand and blow this thing up?

They ARE 'Rats, after all...

29 posted on 12/20/2009 11:03:25 AM PST by jessduntno ("The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.")
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To: Man50D
“since Article 1 Section 8 does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care.”

Or do many other things these miscreants are doing.

“It is time for civil disobedience. Pass it on.”

The knuckle dragging socialists have been pushing us this direction for decades; we need to fight back for once.

30 posted on 12/20/2009 11:04:21 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (The End of an Error - 01/20/2013)
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To: Admin Moderator

Unless the House just decides to pass the Senate version directly.


31 posted on 12/20/2009 11:04:56 AM PST by XEHRpa
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To: Admin Moderator

What’s with the 1AM voting scheme?

Congress/Senate never did it before?
Normally they are less than eager to even show up for “work” on weekdays.

Some scheme to get the “vampire” vote? Those who simply can’t be active when the sun is up?


32 posted on 12/20/2009 11:05:02 AM PST by OldArmy52 (The German High Command sent Lenin to destabilize Russia. Who sent Obama?)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
"The knuckle dragging socialists have been pushing us this direction for decades; we need to fight back for once."


33 posted on 12/20/2009 11:05:22 AM PST by jessduntno ("The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.")
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To: whitedog57

Isn’t that the new Movie produced by Pelosi and Reid?

“Yes, there will be bribes!”

Starring all your favorite Senators.

Cast of a Hundred.

Coming to a midnight theater near YOU.


34 posted on 12/20/2009 11:05:51 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Admin Moderator
Hmmm.... 60... Is this or who they are afraid of?

Scott Brown (R) running for Teddy the Swimmers Seat, election day is 01/19/2010.

IMHO they need to get this done before that date if this guy wins, or they are toast. His posing in Cosmo in 82' ain't gonna help, but maybe in MA that is a resume enhancer. Look, he is not perfect, but what if the Senate's Internals are so bad even a Republican has a shot in Massachuetts?

Any thoughts? Especially from MA Freepers...


35 posted on 12/20/2009 11:08:00 AM PST by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: jessduntno

This bribe to the people of Nebraska - and only to the people of Nebraska - by way of Ben Nelson clearly violates the “equal protection” clause of the US Constitution, doesn’t it? Is Nelson such a fool that he doesn’t see that the bribe is not even likely to be paid and that BoyObaMao and his minions have the perfect “out” and they’ll say, “But, hey, thanks for your vote, Mr. Ben-dover Nelson.”


36 posted on 12/20/2009 11:11:18 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Man50D

Can’t all this be tied up in the courts?


37 posted on 12/20/2009 11:11:19 AM PST by unkus
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To: KarlInOhio

Yep. I thought about calling my senator, Fat Deb Stabenow about grabbing some more pork but thought better of it as she would probably come over to my house looking for a meal.


38 posted on 12/20/2009 11:11:53 AM PST by quantim
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To: whitedog57

But more bribes cost more money.

It wouldn’t be deficit-neutral anymore — and Obama won’t stand for that < /sarc>


39 posted on 12/20/2009 11:12:26 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: unkus
Can’t all this be tied up in the courts?

I'm not a lawyer but one suggestion is filing lawsuits.
40 posted on 12/20/2009 11:13:01 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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