Posted on 12/20/2009 1:53:22 AM PST by Libloather
Why the Senate Should Vote Yes on Health Care
By JOE BIDEN
Published: December 19, 2009
IF I were still a United States senator, I would not only vote yes on the current health care reform bill, I would do so with the sure knowledge that I was casting one of the most historic votes of my 36 years in the Senate. I would vote yes knowing that the bill represents the culmination of a struggle begun by Theodore Roosevelt nearly a century ago to make health care reform a reality. And while it does not contain every measure President Obama and I wanted, I would vote yes for this bill certain that it includes the fundamental, essential change that opponents of reform have resisted for generations.
We have been here before. In the past, as the moment of decision drew nearer, criticism from both the left and the right grew louder. Compromises were derided. The perfect became the enemy of the good.
**SNIP**
That is not all. President Obama and I know we have to put our fiscal house in order. This is why those who claim they oppose reform because they fear for our country’s fiscal stability should finally acknowledge what the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office makes crystal clear: not only is the Senate bill paid for, it is this country’s single largest deficit-reduction measure in a dozen years.
I share the frustration of other progressives that the Senate bill does not include a public option. But I’ve been around a long time, and I know that in Washington big changes never emerge in perfect form.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Merry Christmas.
(Can I still say that under the new Deathcare™ bill?)
“historic vote” yup, gotta agree with that.
not sure if its a gift that keeps on giving. NOONE CARES what stupid thing he says next. We only care when Obama say stupid things
I like it. Clean house. (Except for the excess feathers and tar stains.)
I bet Joe thinks this 0bamacare bill is as “historic” as when FDR addressed the nation on television during the Depression (before FDR became President, and before Americans had television sets). Did Joe Biden copy this from Neil Kinnock too?
It would be best for them to lay of the use of “historic”. Treason can and often is “historic”. Witness Julius and Ethel Rosenberg.
This is not Reform. This is a very simple plan. Make well people pay more and ration care to the sick. Individual insurance is eliminated. It is a collectivist dream of fairness. Of course it will not work. It never has and never will. It is needed to cover up the bankrupted failure of prior government plans. Liberal solution? As usual...more Liberalism.
Desirable as it may be for people with pre-existing conditions to be able to obtain insurance, is it equally desirable that insurance premiums will have to be increased to compensate insurance companies for the losses they will sustain by insuring people who are already sick? Likewise, if insurance companies drop people who get sick, that reduces premiums for the rest of us. If they are prohibited from doing this, the rest of us will have to pay higher premiums to achieve what appears on the surface to be a laudable goal. In short, every one of the "reforms" lauded by the vice president will require insurance companies to raise premiums elsewhere. Yet the vice president concludes his paragraph with this improbable assurance: "Those who already have insurance will be able to keep it, and will gain peace of mind knowing they won’t be priced out of the market by skyrocketing premiums."
Leftists gain a lot of mileage by ignoring Newtonian laws of economics. Biden is essentially assuring the folks that one can take more money out of insurance companies without putting more money into insurance companies. He is lying and he knows it.
The question is, do the folks know it?
A general question-anyone know if this conscientious objector (against paying for the murder of the unborn human babies) will have to pay? It is against my religion.
The man is totally delusional.
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What do democrats call it when they promise the state of Nebraska that the federal government would pick up Nebraska’s share the the bill’s proposed expansion of Medicaid for “ever” in order to get Ben Nelsons vote?
Isn’t that involuntary servitude also known as SLAVERY for the citizens of the other 49 states to be forced to work and pay for Nebraska’s share of the expansion of Medicaid???
What happened to equality? Are the citizens of Nebraska better then the citizens of the other 49 states? Why have the rest of the states been offered up into involuntary servitude to work and pay for Nebraska’s share?
GOOP gets out nasty tar stains (wish it worked on politicians)
Vice Idiot Joe "nobody messes with me" Biden
But this whole bill is merely one step in the ultimate goal, which is of getting the insurance companies to close up shop across the country as they are required to sell policies to people they never would if they were to only deal on what they would consider a profitable model. One thing this bill does is guarantee that insurance companies will lose money. Whatever one thinks of these companies, their services are desired by the public.
So we get down to the one and only point of this and any bill the democrats pass, which is sowing the seeds of the insurance companies' ultimate demise, leaving some future democrat congress to step in and say "We must have federal takeover of the insurance industry, just like we took over the job of airport security, because we can't put people's lives in the hands of evil businessmen."
All of this is about Barney Frank's "foot in the door" for socialized medicine. The key to understanding this is the fever that burns within the dems to get this thing passed, even though the polls say it's suicide for them. Individual senators, just like people who partake in high-risk investment or gambling or sports, don't think THEY will be the ones who catch the bullet. It's self-delusion, because the risk is thrilling--if they make it through the next few elections, they will be there when the insurance companies collapse, and they will be there to "give" us all "free" healthcare, and thus control our actual lives.
This is the goal of all liberals, and all statists who believe they can actually create a perfect society, if those stupid capitalists will just get out of the way and hand over the money.
These same people are led by a guy who's never even managed a 7-11. And they want to control society, because, well, they just KNOW how to tell people the way they SHOULD live (such as Hillary's bunch know better for the kids than their own parents).
All of this is connected, and it's all part of the same goal.
Gotta go Joe
Biden: open mouth, idiocy spews.
This poster child for “A mind is a terrible thing to waste” is a certifiable lunatic. He is a child abuser - abortion is the ultimate child abuse - and should be in a staight jacket. His druggie family is a prime example of inbreeding gone awry.
They will be spinning this until the November 2010 election. We have already received a number of calls from our Senators and Congressman on why this is important. The spin won’t work, especially when they start taking the taxes.
I wrote my Senators today. I said Ben got Harry to pick up Nebraska’s Medicaid costs. What did they do for VA?
I would vote yes on the current health care reform bill,come on Chuck stand up you with me on this.
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