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E-mail furor doesn't alter evidence for climate change
Washington Post ^ | December 18, 2009 | Michael E. Mann

Posted on 12/18/2009 9:46:15 AM PST by neverdem

I cannot condone some things that colleagues of mine wrote or requested in the e-mails recently stolen from a climate research unit at a British university. But the messages do not undermine the scientific case that human-caused climate change is real.

The hacked e-mails have been mined for words and phrases that can be distorted to misrepresent what the scientists were discussing. In a Dec. 9 op-ed, former Alaska governor Sarah Palin argued that "The e-mails reveal that leading climate 'experts' . . . manipulated data to 'hide the decline' in global temperatures." Yet the e-mail she cites was written in 1999, just after the warmest year ever recorded (1998) to that date. It could not possibly have referred to the claim that global temperatures have declined over this decade -- a claim that is false (the current decade, as has been recently reported, will go down as the warmest on record).

In one case, professor Phil Jones of the University of East Anglia refers to a "trick" regarding temperature data that he attributes to an article that co-authors and I published in the journal Nature in 1998. We showed one up-to-date temperature data set from thermometer measurements along with a longer data set, based on calculations from natural "proxy" records such as ice cores, corals and tree rings, that ended in 1980. The "trick" (by which scientists generally mean a clever solution, i.e., a "trick of the trade") was that...

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The scientific consensus regarding human-caused climate change is based on decades of work by thousands of scientists around the world. The National Academy of Sciences has concluded that the scientific case is clear. As world leaders work in Copenhagen to try to combat this problem, some critics are seeking to cloud the debate and confuse the public.

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To: Smokin' Joe

Why does the guy in the orange jumpsuit always claim to be innocent?


41 posted on 12/18/2009 10:14:34 AM PST by DrNo ("Facts are stubborn things..." John Adams)
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To: Ben Mugged

Michael E. Mann

"Man behind the Hockey Stick"

referring to his reconstruction of temperatures, originally published in 1998.

My Opinion> He must be the originator of the Fraud of Global Warming.

42 posted on 12/18/2009 10:16:14 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: shankbear
"Fake,but accurate"
43 posted on 12/18/2009 10:16:53 AM PST by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: CottShop
The writer of this article in Wapo is either stunningly ignorant, or just plain incompetent...

The writer of this "opinion" piece is one of the chief culprits who is complicit in pushing the great AGW hoax. He is intentionally lying in a desperate bid to cover his own rear end and prevent the whole house of cards from falling...

44 posted on 12/18/2009 10:17:22 AM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

[[Warming and cooling are a completely natural process, Michael. None of my money is required.]]

EXACTLY and I can’t for hte life of me understand why NOONE in political positions is standing up and makign htis statement and showing hte overwhelming evidnece that proves just what you said, that cooling and warmign are entirely natural- it’s so stinkin frustrating watchign this scam unfold and not seeing anyone in power and position do the right hting to protect our liberty, our constitutional rights, and to protect us against fraud by htose in power over us.

By all rights, an intellectually honest politician (is htere such a thing) shoudl bemaking a speech at copenhagen demanding that those criminals answer for their criminal statements, answer to their deceitful manipulation of hte evidences,, and showing hte world and all those nutjob world leaders who are hell-bent on extorting money from thel ittle people the evidnec3e that proves once and for all that man is NOT to blame, and htere is NO way man should be pouring money into this collosal fraud

Lord Monkton has tried, and Inhofe has attempted to, but we need a delegation to keep declaring loudly and publically that man is NOT to blame, and that we have the proof until the maisntream media can no logner ignore the group- NO WAY shoulds this copenhagen ‘summit’ have ev3n occured concidering the fact that htere is overwhelmign evidne e that we’re not to blame, and concidering the FACT that we all know that this summit is nothing but an attempt at massive wealth redistribution that has absolutely nothing to do with climate control.

Fox has attempted to get hte word out- but my gosh- concidering the scope and magnititude of htis fraud against ALL the little folks aroudn hte world, and the devestating effect that wealth redistribution will have o neveryone- they should be hammering home the fact that this is a fraud 24 hours a day and DEMANDING that congress answer to their fraudulent claims- the ONLY things these criminals understand is force apparently, and if they think they will lose money through lawsuits and poosible imprisonment for knowingly defrauding the citizens of htis nation, this whole issue might be a compeltely different one with many moderate democrats and the GOP runnign away from the claims like it’s radioactive-

the silence of the GOP, and hte realtively small amount of reporting is enabling hte left to force through their fraud without any serious opposition


45 posted on 12/18/2009 10:17:48 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: neverdem
He's right, though. the e-mails don't ‘alter’ the evidence. they show that there never was any evidence to begin with.

It was made -up like a Hans Christian Andersen fairy tale, except with malice.

46 posted on 12/18/2009 10:20:33 AM PST by chesley (Lib arguments are neither factual, logical, rational, nor reasonable. They are, however, creative.)
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To: stubernx98

No BS alert needed when the author is shown to be Michael E. Mann.


47 posted on 12/18/2009 10:30:12 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: neverdem
Some of the comments on the article are a hoot;
"Look at it this way, you have 100,000 people at a conference in Denmark, and they can't even agree on how to pronounce "Copenhagen/haagen/heegan/hogan/hugen.""

- Traveler

48 posted on 12/18/2009 10:32:28 AM PST by Traveler59 (Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: neverdem
Mr. Mann, it's really simple to explain what you and your lying cronies have done. You slightly lowered historical temps and slightly raised more recent ones. Whala...AGW. Ain't buying your BS, Pal. Enjoy your freedom and your bank balance while you still have them.
49 posted on 12/18/2009 10:35:33 AM PST by JPG (Al Gore, the several million degree man.)
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To: neverdem

You can’t alter what doesn’t exist.


50 posted on 12/18/2009 10:37:41 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: a fool in paradise
The scientific consensus regarding human-caused climate change is based on decades of work by thousands of scientists around the world

Yeah, and for decades, there were/are TENS of THOUSANDS of REAL scientists that say you're FULL OF Barbra Streisand!

I guess he just forgot to mention them.

51 posted on 12/18/2009 10:39:10 AM PST by RogerWilko
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To: neverdem

The state media took awhile to respond to Climategate, and this is it, the spin. Though the data used to support anthropogenic global warming is faked, the warming scam is real. Got it? This will be the spiel from state media from here on, even though they don’t have one iota of proof that man made climate change is occurring.


52 posted on 12/18/2009 10:50:00 AM PST by pallis
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To: neverdem

If you the time read the comments, priceless !!!


53 posted on 12/18/2009 10:57:08 AM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: neverdem

If you the time read the comments, priceless !!!


54 posted on 12/18/2009 10:57:12 AM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: neverdem; SolitaryMan; rdl6989; Darnright; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; livius; DollyCali; ...
 




Son of Log Lady !

55 posted on 12/18/2009 10:59:09 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: neverdem

Mann, the guy who had to retract his faked “hockey stick” chart, the one that was used by Warmists to “prove” the need for global political change, is telling us that his buddies who helped him, didn’t help him concoct his fraudulent graph.

Hey professor, where did the Medieval Warm period go in your graph? The Maunder Minimum? You and your unindicted co-conspirators thought you could make a better case for catastrophic warming now if we, the unwashed, did not know that Earth was two degrees warmer than now, immediately followed by a full degree colder than now, all without Gulfstream jets and Chinese coal plants!


56 posted on 12/18/2009 11:07:42 AM PST by DBrow
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To: neverdem

“I’ll give him credit for being bold.”

A bunch of these guys are very bold and in-your-face. Nobody is allowed to talk back, though, so these gradeschool bullies can swagger around at will.


57 posted on 12/18/2009 11:10:29 AM PST by DBrow
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To: piytar; stubernx98

“Hey, where is the BS alert?”

“It’s in the byline: ‘Michael E. Mann’ = ‘100 percent pure B.S.’ “

Very true and duly noted. I have added appropriate keywords to this thread.


58 posted on 12/18/2009 12:18:35 PM PST by ShorelineMike (Constituo, ergo sum.)
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To: neverdem
"We showed one up-to-date temperature data set from thermometer measurements along with a longer data set, based on calculations from natural "proxy" records such as ice cores, corals and tree rings, that ended in 1980."

Typical lying distortion from the worlds only source of "Mann" made global warming. The DATA did not end in 1980, the plot did. The problem was the inconvenient fact that the data AFTER 1980 did not show what Mann wanted to show, so he simply left it off the graph. Had he left it on, the plot would not have been nearly as convincing as the one he plotted. It would also have proved that the remaining data was suspect. Neat "trick". I would call it deception.

59 posted on 12/18/2009 4:28:56 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: neverdem
"We showed one up-to-date temperature data set from thermometer measurements along with a longer data set, based on calculations from natural "proxy" records such as ice cores, corals and tree rings, that ended in 1980."

Typical lying distortion from the worlds only source of "Mann" made global warming. The DATA did not end in 1980, the plot did. The problem was the inconvenient fact that the data AFTER 1980 did not show what Mann wanted to show, so he simply left it off the graph. Had he left it on, the plot would not have been nearly as convincing as the one he plotted. It would also have proved that the remaining data was suspect. Neat "trick". I would call it deception.

60 posted on 12/18/2009 4:37:55 PM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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