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ClimateGate Just Got Much, Much Bigger
Big Government ^ | 12/16/09 | Chris Horner

Posted on 12/16/2009 5:22:00 PM PST by pissant

Over at ICECAP.us Meteorologist Joe D’Aleo has posted an item on a “Russian Bombshell” highly relevant to the ClimateGate scandal. The Russian media first posted the story and now some Brits are loving it.

The long and the short of it is best summarized by the Telegraph’s James Dellingpole: “What the Russians are suggesting here, in other words, is that the entire global temperature record used by the IPCC to inform world government policy is a crock.”

That is, we have yet further evidence that the data is being cooked to make the long-running claim of an increase in global temperatures, and now to diminish the apparent cooling of said temps. As the gang at EU referendum tout, “it is in Soviet Union that the CRU, NOAA, NASA show the greatest warming.”

Around the world temperature stations have been widely decommissioned in rural and higher elevations, and we see an over-emphasis on increasingly urbanized (and therefore warmer) stations in the curious selection process as to what temperatures should count, and how much. The latter point references the fact that the data is then adjusted, and we are also seeing an increase in adjusting urbanized (that is, artificially warm) temperature records not down, but upward.

Excerpted in pertinent part, Joe Writes:

On Tuesday, the Moscow-based Institute of Economic Analysis (IEA) issued a report claiming that the Hadley Center for Climate Change based at the headquarters of the British Meteorological Office in Exeter (Devon, England) had probably tampered with Russian-climate data.

The IEA believes that Russian meteorological-station data did not substantiate the anthropogenic global-warming theory. …The data of stations located in areas not listed in the Hadley Climate Research Unit Temperature UK (HadCRUT) survey often does not show any substantial warming in the late 20th century and the early 21st century.

(Excerpt) Read more at biggovernment.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: agw; cei; climategate; globalwarming; larrysinclairslover; obama; warmers
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To: pissant
Not to forget when the September Siberian data was used for October, so the year could be the hottest evar.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/11/10/giss-releases-october-2008-data/

21 posted on 12/16/2009 5:38:21 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: HerrBlucher

Jail my Ass, This is Conspiracy to Commit Treason Against the United States. They need to be Tried and Convicted for TREASON, and then Public Hangings are in order.


22 posted on 12/16/2009 5:40:29 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: pissant

The Russians are the Dog the Didn’t Bark.

They are the ones who have the most to gain in the whole Global Warming scam, because they are sitting on a mountain of Carbon Credits that they can sell.

All of the targets have as a baseline the years right before the collapse of the Soviet Union. Since then, Russian industry has collapsed and what remains has grown much more efficient. Therefore, Russian CO2 emissions are less than half of the old Soviet baseline.

Which means Russia is in a position to sell Carbon permits under any international Cap and Trade regime, and make Billions and Billions of dollars.

And, what do you know, it is the Russian data that shows the strongest warming trend. What are the chances?!?

You trust the Russians... Don’t you?


23 posted on 12/16/2009 5:42:38 PM PST by Haiku Guy ("I don't give them Hell / I tell the truth about them / And they think it's Hell" -- Harry Truman)
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To: pissant

I have known for quite a while that many, many weather stations out in the boonies of the USSR were allowed to fall into disrepair or abandoned years ago. The result is that temperatures included in pre 1990 average included huge swaths of Siberia that are NOT included in post 1990 averages.


24 posted on 12/16/2009 5:43:32 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: votemout

Far more than just Gore. Arnold Schwarzenegger has been involved in carbon trading scams with Michael Bloomberg. Illinois and New Mexico are listed as members on the Chicago Climate Exchange as is Lugar Farms. Obama was a Joyce Foundation board member when they gave Richard Sando money to start the CCX.

This is a far larger financial scam than anyone seems to realize and any elected official pushing cap and trade should be investigated.

http://www.chicagoclimatex.com/content.jsf?id=64


25 posted on 12/16/2009 5:44:26 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Haiku Guy

The Russians are calling bullsh*t on the Goretrons.


26 posted on 12/16/2009 5:44:29 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
Taking with a small grain of salt. The Russians have a petroleum economy and don't want to spend any of that money some silly global warming scheme, so they have an incentive to say this.

OTOH, CRU did cook the data, which gives the Russians a perfect opportunity to bludgeon them.

27 posted on 12/16/2009 5:45:56 PM PST by colorado tanker (What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
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To: cripplecreek

I would speculate that Mayor Tony Villar of LA would be involved. He’s Ahnuld’s lap dog. LA has no money and Villar is implementing everything green he can think of. Today Ahnuld said that he will press on with green reforms no matter what the US or anyone else does.


28 posted on 12/16/2009 5:49:12 PM PST by votemout
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To: steelyourfaith

I can’t wait to see this on TV news and read it in the paper—in two weeks.


29 posted on 12/16/2009 5:49:59 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: pissant

To quote the great Johnny Cash...”Saaawwweeeeeet”!!!!

Imagine...scurrying around the hallowed halls of intellect...horrid, bitter little men and women plotting, planning the decay of civilization via “greening” the world.

The hangovers are going to be hellatious!!!!


30 posted on 12/16/2009 5:51:16 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: votemout

California has their own climate exchange. While rooting around on the net today I found an announcement from 2006 that the Chicago Climate Exchange was aiding in its start up operations.


31 posted on 12/16/2009 5:53:26 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek

What idiots are doing trading on those exchanges?


32 posted on 12/16/2009 5:56:46 PM PST by votemout
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To: SE Mom

They are not going to go quietly. We are going to have to shove the hangovers right up their asses.


33 posted on 12/16/2009 5:59:28 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: colorado tanker
The Russians can make billions either way this goes.

They will go the way of the party that pays them the most, and gives them absolute power.

Gorefraud and associates won't pay them and won't give them the carbon credit trading scheme, so...

They will sink Gore and AGW with the truth and sell oil.

34 posted on 12/16/2009 6:07:25 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

I don’t believe gore for a second, never did, think Hes an ass.

But I’m not getting in bed with the Russians. I’m to old, I remember them.


35 posted on 12/16/2009 6:10:46 PM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: votemout

Lugar farms (as in Dick Lugar) is listed on the CCX. As I understand it Evan Bayh also has land being held as a carbon sequestration project. (He gets paid for letting trees grow) I suspect that a lot of our elected officials are involved.

I’m sure taxpayer money is going into it as well. As I said before both the state of Illinois and New Mexico are listed as well as the cities of City of Aspen, City of Berkeley, City of Boulder, City of Chicago, City of Fargo ,City of Melbourne, Australia, City of Oakland and the, City of Portland. Those are just the municipalities right out there with there names. God knows how many names are hidden behind corporations and foundation titles. And I’m only looking at the CCX, there are others in various states, reagions and nations.

Check out their members list.

http://www.chicagoclimatex.com/content.jsf?id=64


36 posted on 12/16/2009 6:12:43 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Ronin
You know, if these “scientists” worked for any securities company for other financial institution, the very least that would happen to them is that they would be fired and never be allowed to work in the industry again.

I have an idea that the government will like. How about large government grants to the scientists at CRU, NOAA, and NASA GISS, so they can look into these allegations?

37 posted on 12/16/2009 6:16:27 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: pissant

The Russians are going to destroy this myth. They have access to all the fake data and are going to show everything.

Pray for America and Our Troops


38 posted on 12/16/2009 6:27:07 PM PST by bray (Palin can see the White House from her Porch)
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Climate Change is just a scam to redistribute the wealth of the United States to Third World countries. It doesn’t take much rocket science to figure this out.


39 posted on 12/16/2009 6:27:34 PM PST by Britt0n
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To: pissant

BTTT


40 posted on 12/16/2009 6:28:47 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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