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This Dec. 14 article on testimony from this trial -- see Former plural wife discusses religious teachings in Texas FLDS trial -- shows "the prophet" determines who marries whom.

Quote from that article (feel free to discuss this on that thread as well): Musser said she knew of three levels of heaven, the top level being a state in which the man becomes a god and goes with his wives to "create their own worlds." She said she did not know of levels of hell.

(What people see themselves doing for eternity, well, they also do down here)

1 posted on 12/16/2009 9:09:42 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

2 down, 20,000+ to go.

When I lived in Utah, I knew several polygamists, even today I have many friends who are former polygamists.

Women are property, families not taken care of, control is absolute, it is a horrendous life.


2 posted on 12/16/2009 9:26:06 AM PST by reaganaut (ex-Mormon now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: Colofornian

I was just thinking about that case and wondering what ever happened to it.

Statutory rape laws can be a b**** if the DA wants to go after them, kind of like tax evasion.


3 posted on 12/16/2009 9:27:02 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Colofornian
No way. Second fellow convicted. And how many hundreds of times were we told it was all a witch hunt? With no evidence.........
4 posted on 12/16/2009 9:30:22 AM PST by svcw (The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves. GW)
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To: Colofornian

These guys do it all wrong. In this nation, Muslims, trailer-trash, ghetto-rats, and other useless parasites are welfare-collecting “spiritual” polygamists with teenage girls all day long, and never get in trouble for it. The trick is to never build a scary cult compound.


5 posted on 12/16/2009 9:49:00 AM PST by Anti-Utopian
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To: Colofornian

He’s just following the prophet smith who married some as young as 14 years old.


8 posted on 12/16/2009 10:20:56 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Colofornian

Hum...

Where are all the defenders of these guys now I wonder...


12 posted on 12/16/2009 11:22:09 AM PST by ejonesie22
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To: Colofornian
Adding an article from the San Angelo Standard Times to your thread.

Update: Punishment phase for FLDS member begins with testimony

By Matthew Waller a>
Posted December 16, 2009 at 10:26 a.m. , updated December 16, 2009 at 1:16 p.m.

— Jurors have begun hearing testimony for the punishment phase of the trial of Allan Keate, a member of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints found guilty of sexual assault of a child.

The prosecution brought in Rebecca Musser, a former FLDS member, to testify as to her life in a FLDS community.

Musser said she was “placed” with Rulon Jeffs, who was prophet of the FLDS community at the time.

The FLDS practice polygamy by arranging “spiritual” or “celestial” marriages that are non-legal.

Musser said she was 19 years old and Jeffs was 84 at the time she was placed. She said she was Jeffs’ 19th wife.

Lead prosecutor Eric Nichols projected a picture for the jury that showed dozens of women clothed in white, and near the center was a man in a black jacket.

“These are all his wives at the time of the wedding photo,” Musser said.

Nichols then brought stacks of manila folders to Musser and had her verify the types of documents contained in them: personal records, priesthood records, marriage records, etc.

Musser also explained the phrase “house in hiding,” which would later appear on pictures revealed to the jury.

“We were taught that God would sweep the wicked off the face of the earth, and those a part of that group would come against (the FLDS), so they would need to hide their way of life,” Musser said.

Later the jury stepped out while lead defense attorney Randy Wilson handed written objections to each piece of evidence that the prosecution sought to admit. Fifty-first District Court Judge Barbara Walther admitted almost all pieces of evidence.

Nichols brought in an investigator with the Texas Attorney General’s office, Sgt. Wesley Hensley, to comment on the contents of the evidence shown to Musser. He read off marriage records and personal records to show that Keate had multiple non-legal wives and children by them, and that he had taken a wife previously “sealed” to another man.

This is a breaking news story. More developments will be reported as information becomes available.


Patrick Dove/Standard-Times Allen Eugene Keate is lead to the
Schleicher County Law Enforcement Center on Dec. 15, 2009,
after being found guilty of child sexual assault.


29 posted on 12/16/2009 2:02:26 PM PST by deport (79 DAYS UNTIL THE TEXAS PRIMARY....... MARCH 2, 2010)
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To: Elsie

More shenanigans about the traditional branch of the Mormon Church.


37 posted on 12/16/2009 10:22:16 PM PST by Gamecock
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To: Colofornian

Polygamy is problematic for several reasons. It’s understandable when a tragedy causes a shortage of men. But when you have an equal male-female ratio, polygamy wastes the genetic diversity of men.

If one husband has five wives and fathers five children with each of them, you have 25 half-siblings who are unmarriageble to each other. If each of those five wives had children with her own husband, that would be 5 clans of genetically distinct individuals who could reproduce healthy offspring. How this not obvious to those people?


57 posted on 12/18/2009 3:02:21 PM PST by SySnootles
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