Posted on 12/15/2009 8:35:30 PM PST by Steelfish
Burial Cloth Found In Jerusalem Cave Casts Doubt On Authenticity of Turin Shroud
By MATTHEW KALMAN 16th December 2009
Archaeologists have discovered the first known burial shroud in Jerusalem from the time of Christ's crucifixion - and say it casts serious doubt on the claimed authenticity of the Turin Shroud.
Ancient shrouds from the period have been found before in the Holy Land, but never in Jerusalem. Researchers say the weave and design of the shroud discovered in a burial cave near Jerusalem's Old City are completely different to the Turin Shroud.
Discovery: The shrouded body of a man was found in this sealed chamber of a cave in the Hinnom Valley, overlooking the Old City of Jerusalem Radiocarbon tests and artefacts found in the cave prove almost beyond doubt that it was from the same time of Christ's death.
It was made with a simple two-way weave - not the twill weave used on the Turin Shroud, which textile experts say was introduced more than 1,000 years after Christ lived. And instead of being a single sheet like the famous item in Turin, the Jerusalem shroud is made up of several sections, with a separate piece for the head.
Professor Shimon Gibson, the archaeologist who discovered the tomb, said ancient writings and contemporary shrouds from other areas had suggested this design, and the Jerusalem shroud finally provided the physical evidence. The debate over the Turin Shroud will not go away. Last month a Vatican researcher said she had found the words 'Jesus Nazarene' on the shroud, proving it was the linen cloth which was wrapped around Christ's body.
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BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
PRAISE GOD FOR HIS GIFT TO YOU.
AND YOU FOR SHARING IT.
Much touched by your narrative.
Thanks Big.
Praise God.
HE’S COMING SOON.
Amazing.
I get up this morning to find that my heartfelt comment lat night about remembering the central point of Christianity was completely misconstrued.
I didn’t say a thing about Catholics. I didn’t even think about Catholics. Nobody was “bashed” until some thin skins got irritated by their imaginations.
My point was a valid one, and I stand by it. I’ll go out on a limb and contend that anyone who argues with what I said needs to examine their heart and their faith. And by “faith,” I don’t mean the name on the sign at their church building.
Your post is a thread-killer...good observation...magritte
AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!
[I thought it was obvious—just as you confirmed. Well put!]
Some very good information here on the caucasian (Celtic) Bronze Age mummies found in China.
http://www.s8int.com/page26.html
THANKS MUCH.
FASCINATING.
d00d, take a pill. There was *nothing* about Catholics in that remark - Nothing at all. We should see how charitable YOU are in your apology to Jedidah.
OTOH, if you'd like some bashing, I will be more than happy to oblige.
Do you mean to insinuate that someone worships "souvenirs" (like, presumably, the Shroud)?
If so, who?
Um, hel-LOOOO...... Dockers......!
WOW! Thanks for that witness! "Someday" is soon.
Did you know that some hackers from Carnegie-Mellon actually have that thing running Linux?
Hee hee!
I'm betting it originally ran Windows....which is why we found it at the bottom of the Aegean.
Thanks for the excellent fact-based commentary. It’s striking to see how superior your understanding of this topic is to that of the “professional journalist” who cobbled together this article.
Weaving patterns may not be typical of an era, but someone had to do it first, and often advancements are lost. (Damascus steel, for instance, (not pattern welded or simply layered steel) has yet to be reproduced.)
While certain fabrics can be ruled out as being from the era (synthetics, for instance), proving a pre-industrial revolution weaving pattern did not exist (at all, anywhere) at a certain date would be pretty tough, and opens the person making the determination to accusations of circular reasoning. (You can't simply date a pattern because it allegedly did not exist until a certain date, therefore it has to be after a certain date.)
There has to be other supporting evidence which would indicate that the material comes from a certain date, and in the instance of the shroud, exposed to fire, Carbon dating will just not be enough.
In the end, it becomes a matter of belief, not one of proof, at least until someone can demonstrate how medieval persons created the images in such a way that it fits the other evidence.
Yes, that’s my view, too.
Not ALL ancient looms were narrow.
INDEED.
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