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Winchester to Deliver 200 Million 40-Cal. Rounds to Homeland Security
Gun Reports ^ | 12/14/2009 | Gun Reports

Posted on 12/14/2009 6:45:53 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour

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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

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181 posted on 12/15/2009 7:25:43 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: o_zarkman44
I am convinced that the economy has a lot to do with fewer sales. The desire to stock up is still there for many, just not the financial means.

Of course the economy is a factor, as well as the fact that many have horded ammo and simply don't need any more, hence the price drops and availability.

182 posted on 12/15/2009 8:13:56 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: green iguana

Thanks for the tip.

I don’t really know what had been done to the firing pin before I bought the pistol, but I know the second firing pin (the one I installed) was not dry fired - and also broke in less than 100 rounds.

I had a suspicion is was probably something to do with the metal used.


183 posted on 12/15/2009 8:16:36 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: green iguana

No way. They used CAST IRON for a firing pin? [facepalm]


184 posted on 12/15/2009 8:19:33 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: piytar
For your 9mm, look at Hornady Critical Defense rounds.

How do they differ from Winchester or say Gold Dot 147gr JHP?

185 posted on 12/15/2009 8:30:17 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Oath keepers + The NRA = FReeRepublic (.com baby))
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To: Still Thinking

Oops - my mistake. Cast steel just doesn’t roll off the fingertips, but that’s what they are - cast steel, not iron. And it’s a weak, brittle steel.

Casting a firing pin is just dumb.


186 posted on 12/15/2009 8:44:50 AM PST by green iguana
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

For O’s 200,000 man police force that works out to 1,000 rounds each. I don’t understand how any so called intelligent person cannot see what’s happening here.

I know a big fat obese guy who started a “re-election” poll on obama and, of course, it showed him getting re-elected with ease. This guy is too stupid to realize that a fat turd like him will be the first denied medical treatment. I just hope I live long enough to see the surprise look on the idiots’ faces who voted for this clown.


187 posted on 12/15/2009 8:46:26 AM PST by Terry Mross (Is it racist if it's true?)
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To: green iguana

Well, yeah, that’s what I was objecting to as well, the casting more than the iron.


188 posted on 12/15/2009 8:52:54 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Joe Brower

We agree on that 180gr round for the SIG P229. I usually carry two mags of 180gr FMJ for vehicle applications and one mag of 155 JHP for soft targets.

My lookin’ for trouble carry is a Glock mod 20, though. For that one, it’s a mix of FMJ and jealously hoarded Black Talon. It’s nice to have 15+1 rounds of near-.41 mag persuasion on tap when the goign gets wierd.


189 posted on 12/15/2009 8:55:33 AM PST by Noumenon (Work that AQT - turn ammunition into skill. No tyrant can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.)
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To: green iguana

Unless it’s an anvil, you shouldn’t use casting to make an object you’re going to strike repeatedly with a hammer.


190 posted on 12/15/2009 9:00:00 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Their hollow point is filled with a proprietary rubber to ensure penetration of heavy clothing and then proper expansion. See here: http://www.tactical-life.com/online/exclusives/hornadys-critical-defense-ammo/

Of course, it’s hard to go wrong with Gold Dot, too! Ditto Winchester. All quality ammo.


191 posted on 12/15/2009 9:22:03 AM PST by piytar (Go Away RNC, Steele, Graham, and the rest of the lib-loser GOP. WE'RE TAKING OUR PARTY BACK!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

It was pointed out to me that homeland security had 19,000 employees and that doesnt take into account the coast guardsmen..the coasties are issued 40 cal sig 226s now.


192 posted on 12/15/2009 9:29:47 AM PST by Armedanddangerous (I think youre so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: Red in Blue PA

It was pointed out to me that homeland security had 19,000 employees and that doesnt take into account the coast guardsmen..the coasties are issued 40 cal sig 226s now.


193 posted on 12/15/2009 9:29:57 AM PST by Armedanddangerous (I think youre so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: Red in Blue PA

It was pointed out to me that homeland security had 19,000 employees and that doesnt take into account the coast guardsmen..the coasties are issued 40 cal sig 226s now.


194 posted on 12/15/2009 9:30:11 AM PST by Armedanddangerous (I think youre so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: piytar
Thank you!

I love these threads, I always learn something new.

195 posted on 12/15/2009 9:35:56 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Oath keepers + The NRA = FReeRepublic (.com baby))
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Yea, that number is waaaaay too much for that many officers.


196 posted on 12/15/2009 9:36:58 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour; All
I think you're blowing it out of proportion... it's spread out over 5 years so that's only 2600 rounds per year per employee.

As of today at 11:29CST the census bureau estimates there are 308,158,266 Americans. According to an AP-Ipsos poll (Link Here), approximately 41% of those classify themselves as "Conservative". That means there are roughly 126,344,889 conservatives in America today.

If you divide that between the number of available rounds per month it would require to take out all conservatives at a rate of 3,250,000 rounds per month, it would take nearly 3 ¼ years to completely wipe out the opposition... We’ve got plenty of time.

197 posted on 12/15/2009 9:51:22 AM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - I have a theory about how Darwin evolved... more soon.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
.45 Federal Premium, 165 Grain, Hydra-Shok, JHP.
When you want what you hit to stay down permanently.

Actually, Federal HST (Hydra-Shok Two) is the successor to Hydra-Shok, and a much better expansion technology. Available currently for under $20/50 in LEO pack.

198 posted on 12/15/2009 10:01:57 AM PST by corba
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To: Overtaxed Patriot

Would love it, but looked at a Sig - roughly twice the price of my Springfield XDM.


199 posted on 12/15/2009 11:16:48 AM PST by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
With just over 15,000 employees, that works out to just over 13,000 rounds per employee.

continuing your math, over the 5 year contract life that's only 50 rounds per employee per week. Not so out of line when you consider range time.

200 posted on 12/15/2009 3:43:06 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("'Diversity' is one of those words designed to absolve you of the need to think." Mark Steyn)
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