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Breaking: Lieberman wins, Senate drops Medicare buy-in
Hot Air ^ | Dec.14, 2009 | Allahpundit

Posted on 12/14/2009 4:20:21 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

Major Garrett’s in the hall outside the Democratic caucus room and tweeting the word from Tom Harkin. Can’t really call this good news, as it makes passage much more likely, so let’s call it slightly-better-than-worst-case-scenario news. No more public option:

Asked by a reporter if the Medicare buy-in will be pulled out, Harkin said “looks that way,” before praising a Democratic health care bill without the two public option compromises.

“There’s enough good in this bill that even without those two, we gotta move,” he said. “All the insurance reforms, all the stuff we wrote so hard for prevention and wellness in there, the workforce development issues that we have in there, the reimbursement based on quality not on quantity — there’s good stuff in this bill. It’s a giant step forward, changing the paradigm of health care in America.”

Lieberman said he can (read: will) vote for the bill without the public plan provisions. Reaction, straight off the top of my head: (1) Kind of surprising that neither Snowe nor Collins defected to bail Reid out, eh? Now that he’s back to 60-ish, I wonder if they or Nelson, Bayh, Lincoln, etc. will suddenly ramp up their own demands. (2) The Democrats are so frantic to pass something at this point — e.g., there was a rumor floated earlier today that Emanuel was pressuring Reid to use reconciliation — that Pelosi will almost certainly want to ping-pong the Senate bill. Will the absence of a public option convince Blue Dogs who voted no on the House bill to vote yes this time or will the gruesome polling scare them away?

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; harryreid; lieberman; medicare; medicare55
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This thing is disintegrating before our very eyes. By the time this thing is done the Democrats will have a Federal Abortion Funding Bill and not much else.


21 posted on 12/14/2009 4:31:20 PM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

That should read, Liberman wins and the taxpayers lose.


22 posted on 12/14/2009 4:31:33 PM PST by ODDITHER (HAT)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Like the global warming "crises", there is no health care "crises."

Instead of debating the bill, why not debate the NEED for a bill at all???
Republicans are, once again, following the left wing agenda. Good cop/Bad cop!

23 posted on 12/14/2009 4:31:44 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: OldDeckHand

I answered my own question. The conference report may be filibustered, except in limited cases of budget bills. This is of course, unless the Dems decide to go nuclear.


24 posted on 12/14/2009 4:32:00 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Not surprising, but it will change a few more times over the next few days. The situation always changes when it comes to democrats.


25 posted on 12/14/2009 4:32:19 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Do you really think the Senate will allow the Stupak language to stay in?


26 posted on 12/14/2009 4:32:42 PM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: ryan71
You were saying ...

Once it’s passed, they will put whatever the hell they want in it.

That definitely is a problem. So, what this means, is that the fact that it's going to be easier to pass now, makes the whole thing worse for us -- actually...

27 posted on 12/14/2009 4:32:59 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The ENTIRE bill is crap. If it was just one part of the bill that was bad and the rest was good different story. But the WHOLE bill is just horrible, KILL THE WHOLE DAMN THING


28 posted on 12/14/2009 4:33:19 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: C210N
...even here in GomorrahChusetts...

I have got to borrow that...LOL!

29 posted on 12/14/2009 4:33:43 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: ODDITHER

Yeah, isn’t that what is the real problem ... deficits.


30 posted on 12/14/2009 4:34:06 PM PST by Tarpon ( ...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Want to know what the Democrats motive is in getting health care passed? Just look at what they are unwilling to compromise on. The Dems seem to be willing to (reluctantly) jettison anything except a larger government hand in health care?
31 posted on 12/14/2009 4:35:58 PM PST by vamoose
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To: Free ThinkerNY
This monstrosity passes in any form it will be tragic for America!

No!! No!! And Absolutely NOT!!!

32 posted on 12/14/2009 4:37:16 PM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free)
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To: shadeaud

so what is to keep them from adding it in later?


33 posted on 12/14/2009 4:37:42 PM PST by Muzzle_em (Adopt a new furry best friend today! They have nothing but love to give.)
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To: refermech

When it proves to be a complete turd, how will anyone, besides us conservative bloggers even know the horror stories? The MSM surely won’t report them and IF they do, it will somehow be blamed on Bush.


34 posted on 12/14/2009 4:39:05 PM PST by Muzzle_em (Adopt a new furry best friend today! They have nothing but love to give.)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

“A lot of these Rats like Reid won’t be around after the elections, so they need to grab all the government control over the people that they can, now.”

Reid has probably already been promised a nice payoff, maybe an ambassadorship in exchange for pushing this thru. Kill the bill, period.


35 posted on 12/14/2009 4:39:31 PM PST by Fu-fu2
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It was my understanding that the House can’t pass a bill without the public option. Therefore, I hope this whole thing stalls until after the holidays when the 2010 elections will start to matter.


36 posted on 12/14/2009 4:39:36 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The "robust public option"

You lose, Nancy! Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!



37 posted on 12/14/2009 4:40:02 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Given the definition of government run health care is vague at best, LIEberman will vote for government run health care on the pretense that by his own definition it isn’t government run health care. he speaks out of both sides of his mouth ot deceive people into believing he is form them while supporting the socialist line. This has been his method of operation throughout his political career. He is a snake in the grass.


38 posted on 12/14/2009 4:40:05 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So, now it’s down the the anti-abortion Rats. In other words, we’re dead.


39 posted on 12/14/2009 4:41:33 PM PST by GOPsterinMA ("Henceforth, you shall be known as...'Nobel Obama'".)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Funny they should have collared Harkin, one of the tinfoil-hat members of the Senate, who sponsored and secured the waste of tens of millions of dollars on witch-doctor "medicine."

He's a real eggspert, you bet.

40 posted on 12/14/2009 4:42:40 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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