Posted on 12/14/2009 4:20:21 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
Major Garretts in the hall outside the Democratic caucus room and tweeting the word from Tom Harkin. Cant really call this good news, as it makes passage much more likely, so lets call it slightly-better-than-worst-case-scenario news. No more public option:
Asked by a reporter if the Medicare buy-in will be pulled out, Harkin said looks that way, before praising a Democratic health care bill without the two public option compromises.
Theres enough good in this bill that even without those two, we gotta move, he said. All the insurance reforms, all the stuff we wrote so hard for prevention and wellness in there, the workforce development issues that we have in there, the reimbursement based on quality not on quantity theres good stuff in this bill. Its a giant step forward, changing the paradigm of health care in America.
Lieberman said he can (read: will) vote for the bill without the public plan provisions. Reaction, straight off the top of my head: (1) Kind of surprising that neither Snowe nor Collins defected to bail Reid out, eh? Now that hes back to 60-ish, I wonder if they or Nelson, Bayh, Lincoln, etc. will suddenly ramp up their own demands. (2) The Democrats are so frantic to pass something at this point e.g., there was a rumor floated earlier today that Emanuel was pressuring Reid to use reconciliation that Pelosi will almost certainly want to ping-pong the Senate bill. Will the absence of a public option convince Blue Dogs who voted no on the House bill to vote yes this time or will the gruesome polling scare them away?
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This thing is disintegrating before our very eyes. By the time this thing is done the Democrats will have a Federal Abortion Funding Bill and not much else.
That should read, Liberman wins and the taxpayers lose.
Instead of debating the bill, why not debate the NEED for a bill at all???
Republicans are, once again, following the left wing agenda. Good cop/Bad cop!
I answered my own question. The conference report may be filibustered, except in limited cases of budget bills. This is of course, unless the Dems decide to go nuclear.
Not surprising, but it will change a few more times over the next few days. The situation always changes when it comes to democrats.
Do you really think the Senate will allow the Stupak language to stay in?
Once its passed, they will put whatever the hell they want in it.
That definitely is a problem. So, what this means, is that the fact that it's going to be easier to pass now, makes the whole thing worse for us -- actually...
The ENTIRE bill is crap. If it was just one part of the bill that was bad and the rest was good different story. But the WHOLE bill is just horrible, KILL THE WHOLE DAMN THING
I have got to borrow that...LOL!
Yeah, isn’t that what is the real problem ... deficits.
No!! No!! And Absolutely NOT!!!
so what is to keep them from adding it in later?
When it proves to be a complete turd, how will anyone, besides us conservative bloggers even know the horror stories? The MSM surely won’t report them and IF they do, it will somehow be blamed on Bush.
“A lot of these Rats like Reid wont be around after the elections, so they need to grab all the government control over the people that they can, now.”
Reid has probably already been promised a nice payoff, maybe an ambassadorship in exchange for pushing this thru. Kill the bill, period.
It was my understanding that the House can’t pass a bill without the public option. Therefore, I hope this whole thing stalls until after the holidays when the 2010 elections will start to matter.
You lose, Nancy! Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!
Given the definition of government run health care is vague at best, LIEberman will vote for government run health care on the pretense that by his own definition it isn’t government run health care. he speaks out of both sides of his mouth ot deceive people into believing he is form them while supporting the socialist line. This has been his method of operation throughout his political career. He is a snake in the grass.
So, now it’s down the the anti-abortion Rats. In other words, we’re dead.
He's a real eggspert, you bet.
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