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Breaking: Lieberman wins, Senate drops Medicare buy-in
Hot Air ^ | Dec.14, 2009 | Allahpundit

Posted on 12/14/2009 4:20:21 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

Major Garrett’s in the hall outside the Democratic caucus room and tweeting the word from Tom Harkin. Can’t really call this good news, as it makes passage much more likely, so let’s call it slightly-better-than-worst-case-scenario news. No more public option:

Asked by a reporter if the Medicare buy-in will be pulled out, Harkin said “looks that way,” before praising a Democratic health care bill without the two public option compromises.

“There’s enough good in this bill that even without those two, we gotta move,” he said. “All the insurance reforms, all the stuff we wrote so hard for prevention and wellness in there, the workforce development issues that we have in there, the reimbursement based on quality not on quantity — there’s good stuff in this bill. It’s a giant step forward, changing the paradigm of health care in America.”

Lieberman said he can (read: will) vote for the bill without the public plan provisions. Reaction, straight off the top of my head: (1) Kind of surprising that neither Snowe nor Collins defected to bail Reid out, eh? Now that he’s back to 60-ish, I wonder if they or Nelson, Bayh, Lincoln, etc. will suddenly ramp up their own demands. (2) The Democrats are so frantic to pass something at this point — e.g., there was a rumor floated earlier today that Emanuel was pressuring Reid to use reconciliation — that Pelosi will almost certainly want to ping-pong the Senate bill. Will the absence of a public option convince Blue Dogs who voted no on the House bill to vote yes this time or will the gruesome polling scare them away?

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; harryreid; lieberman; medicare; medicare55
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Kos Kiddies are calling Liebermann everything but a child of God. They are going Ape.


121 posted on 12/14/2009 8:30:36 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I can hardly WAIT for 2010 to get rid of all these RATS!

This bill, if passed with ANY of it’s parts will be around
forever, and that’s all they are counting on!


122 posted on 12/14/2009 8:36:57 PM PST by luvie (Obama, the job-killer, has presided over the loss of 4.6 million jobs...and counting! RL)
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To: LUV W

Right now, they don’t give a d@mn what they pass. They just want to pass something. After that, they’ll create a bureaucracy that will implement what they want, regardless of what the law says.


123 posted on 12/14/2009 8:40:23 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Other than the fact that this is still a bill that will destroy our economy and fundamentally change this country, destroying the best health care system in the world, this is GREAT news.... /sarc


124 posted on 12/14/2009 8:45:07 PM PST by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Richard Kimball

Exactly!

Roosevelt did that with his social programs! This guy is
10 times worse than Roosevelt!...and his DIM hinchmen!


125 posted on 12/14/2009 8:49:17 PM PST by luvie (Obama, the job-killer, has presided over the loss of 4.6 million jobs...and counting! RL)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Lieberman wins, Senate drops Medicare buy-in

And America loses because the dims have a 60th vote.

126 posted on 12/14/2009 9:20:24 PM PST by South40 ("Islam has a long tradition of tolerance." ~Hussein Obama, June 4, 2009, Cairo, Egypt)
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To: BP2

>You lose, Nancy! Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!<

it will be there within 5 years if we dont stop this now.


127 posted on 12/14/2009 9:27:15 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: sonic109

Our elected reps figure the American people have accepted all the other incremental steps to socialism along the way—Social Security, Medicare—and they have accepted the massive spending over the past year. So they figure they have nothing to worry about. We’ll all just accept nationalized health care too.....and you’re probably right about cap/tax and immigration too. 2010 elections will be too late.


128 posted on 12/14/2009 9:27:39 PM PST by Fu-fu2
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To: catarac

This may look like a win, but it is not. Within 5 years they will have single payer, which is what they want. If this is not stopped dead in it’s tracks now we will have no control over our own health care at all within 5 years. Hell , we have to pay taxes on this for 5 years anyway before one person is actually covered by this!

All this did was allow it to move forward.


129 posted on 12/14/2009 9:30:55 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: ought-six

I dont think it will pass.


130 posted on 12/14/2009 9:34:04 PM PST by gibtx2 (End Tenure)
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To: All

Get the vaseline ready, were are about to get screwed.


131 posted on 12/14/2009 9:46:21 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedys float, Mary Jos don't)
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To: Munz; All

>You lose, Nancy! Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!<

it will be there within 5 years if we dont stop this now.

I know — stopping this NOW not only gives Obama his Waterloo, but also precludes a Conservative Congress from having to untangle this unmitigated mess after the 2010 Election.


I only say this to taunt any Libs reading the thread.

Earlier today, I “infiltrated” a group of Obots at a function. TRUST ME — they are as disillusioned NOW as Conservatives were a year ago when Obozo first won.


132 posted on 12/14/2009 10:18:46 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

True, my brother WAS one of them. Now anytime I say anything he just listens with a minimal response. He’s my older brother so it’s great...though not that much considering what’s ahead.


133 posted on 12/14/2009 10:28:08 PM PST by bronxville
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To: refermech

“Let them pass it with only dem support, then when it implodes, hammer them without mercy!”

- What good would that do? We hammer them about social security, welfare, acorn..and yet theyre still around. Entitlement programs are almost impossible to get rid of once they pass.


134 posted on 12/14/2009 11:37:49 PM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: ryan71

“Once it’s passed, they will put whatever the hell they want in it.”

They absolutely will...Do you think you could be phony,liar,cheat,& a thief, 24 hrs a day? these SOB’s can...cause that’s what they were born to do.Their Mothers & fathers were thieves and that’s why they are the scum of this earth.

Joe Lieberman is a lawyer and a traitor to this country...a snake! Jesus Christ called ‘em snakes twice just in the book of Matthem alone.John the Baptist called ‘em snakes also. There’s absolutely nothing...that they are good for.

They are dirt!

“NO!”


135 posted on 12/15/2009 1:45:01 AM PST by bobaloobob
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To: ryan71

“Once it’s passed, they will put whatever the hell they want in it.”

They absolutely will...Do you think you could be phony,liar,cheat,& a thief, 24 hrs a day? these SOB’s can...cause that’s what they were born to do.Their Mothers & fathers were thieves and that’s why they are the scum of this earth.

Joe Lieberman is a lawyer and a traitor to this country...a snake! Jesus Christ called ‘em snakes twice just in the book of Matthem alone.John the Baptist called ‘em snakes also. There’s absolutely nothing...that they are good for.

They are dirt!

“NO!”


136 posted on 12/15/2009 1:45:32 AM PST by bobaloobob
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To: ryan71

“Once it’s passed, they will put whatever the hell they want in it.”

They absolutely will...Do you think you could be phony,liar,cheat,& a thief, 24 hrs a day? these SOB’s can...cause that’s what they were born to do.Their Mothers & fathers were thieves and that’s why they are the scum of this earth.

Joe Lieberman is a lawyer and a traitor to this country...a snake! Jesus Christ called ‘em snakes twice just in the book of Matthem alone.John the Baptist called ‘em snakes also. There’s absolutely nothing...that they are good for.

They are dirt!

“NO!”


137 posted on 12/15/2009 1:46:47 AM PST by bobaloobob
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To: CIDKauf

all we need is about a month. holidays in between. get to late Jan and these people thinking about their jobs instead of how to ruin ours.


138 posted on 12/15/2009 2:03:01 AM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: CottShop
This whole thing about 55 was a flippin joke. Everyone knew it was impossible. It's just another false flag to make debate on this government takeover seem reasonable.
139 posted on 12/15/2009 3:20:51 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
So, what does the Democrats'-wet-dream bill do if it doesn't impose government run insurance on all Americans? This was their fondest desire.

Look for subterfuge. They will hide government-run insurance in the thousands of pages of this inane monstrosity - and the detractors won't be able to read the whole thing.

140 posted on 12/15/2009 4:31:35 AM PST by fwdude (It is not the liberals who will destroy this country, but the "moderates.")
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