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Why Do Rappers Hold Their Guns Sideways?
Slate ^ | December 14, 2009 | Brian Palmer

Posted on 12/14/2009 3:54:58 PM PST by Second Amendment First

Why wouldn't you just fire a pistol the normal way?

As police chased Raymond "Ready" Martinez through Times Square on Thursday, the street hustler and aspiring rapper fired two shots, holding the gun sideways "like a character out of a rap video."

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While the New York Post reported that Martinez's side grip caused the gun to "stovepipe"—that's when the spent casing gets caught in the ejection port, jamming the weapon—it's unlikely that the horizontal orientation caused the failure. In theory, tilting a gun sideways—90-degrees counter-clockwise for a right-handed shooter—means that gravity works against the ejection of the spent casing. As a practical matter, however, gravity is so weak compared to the force of the ejection that jamming is no more frequent in the sideways position than in the customary one. The more likely cause of the jam was Martinez's choice of weapon and ammunition. The MAC-10 is prone to stovepiping—a problem that's exacerbated by the use of hollow-point bullets, which may become deformed and scrape the inside of the barrel, or underpowered ammunition, which can slow the slide and throw off the mechanism's timing.
1 posted on 12/14/2009 3:54:58 PM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First

Cause they’re dumb-asses?


2 posted on 12/14/2009 3:57:19 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead. Bonus tag line: FAIL 246, Obama 0)
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To: Second Amendment First

Rappers are dumb asses even in the way they hold a handgun and try to look menacing!!! The cowardly dumb asses are menacing only when no one is shooting back at them!!!


3 posted on 12/14/2009 3:57:54 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: Second Amendment First
the street hustler and aspiring rapper

And successful corpse ...

4 posted on 12/14/2009 3:58:33 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: Second Amendment First

I assumed that if one chose to sweep the street, holding the gun sideways helped keep it at the most effective level.


5 posted on 12/14/2009 3:59:08 PM PST by Quilla
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To: Second Amendment First

Because that’s how they pick it up off the crack table?


6 posted on 12/14/2009 3:59:23 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Doomonyou

Amen, bro’!!


7 posted on 12/14/2009 3:59:25 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (A village in Kenya is missing its idiot.)
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To: Doomonyou

Amen, bro’!!


8 posted on 12/14/2009 3:59:35 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (A village in Kenya is missing its idiot.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Knuckles make better gun-sites.

Try it.

I’m series!


9 posted on 12/14/2009 3:59:35 PM PST by montomike (Politics should be about service and not a lucrative, money-making opportunity!)
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To: Second Amendment First

So they look cool when they take a slug from someone who knows how to use a weapon.


10 posted on 12/14/2009 4:00:07 PM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: Doomonyou

Cause they want hot brass down their necks and also they want the glittering brass to interfere with their point of aim ( they have no point of aim. they just hose.LOL.)

Lets hope they keep stylin’ and dyin’.


11 posted on 12/14/2009 4:00:25 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , and truth (.Member NRA))
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To: Second Amendment First

I think “limp wristing” could cause this as well. Wouldn’t that be embarassing for Mr. Martinez..


12 posted on 12/14/2009 4:00:53 PM PST by Jaxter (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum.)
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To give me a chance when they jam or stovepipe.

Hold a gun side-ways at my local pistol range and the rangemaster will toss you and you may NEVER return.

Works for me....


13 posted on 12/14/2009 4:01:12 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Merry Christmas, FReepers!!!)
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What? Someone actually does that in real li - oh wait... this guy was a criminal.

That 'splains it, I suppose.

14 posted on 12/14/2009 4:01:21 PM PST by OKSooner ("He's quite mad, you know." - Sean Connery to Honor Blackman in "Goldfinger".)
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To: Quilla

I have a friend that’s a former Marine sniper. I asked him this very question, he said they are fools who just think it looks cool.


15 posted on 12/14/2009 4:01:22 PM PST by Shimmer1 (Don 't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: Second Amendment First

because they demographically have an IQ of around 75-80 historically?


16 posted on 12/14/2009 4:01:44 PM PST by wardaddy (Angel Flight by Radney Foster on GAC, if you don't tear up then you must be mighty cold)
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To: Quilla

I think you have the best answer. Keep gun from kicking up, then having to bring back down. Of course, there is a two hand stance.

parsy, who knows his 357 will kick your hand up if you ain’t ready for it.


17 posted on 12/14/2009 4:01:49 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: rcrngroup

I bet it started with a movie or something. They all started copying each other. idjits


18 posted on 12/14/2009 4:01:54 PM PST by GeronL (Join the Palin Beer Summit Putsch!!)
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To: Second Amendment First

Because they failed physics.


19 posted on 12/14/2009 4:02:15 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Question authority!Who is the University of East Anglia to drive the 'Global Climate Change' agenda?)
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To: Quilla

Good analysis:

During the first half of the 20th century, soldiers used the side grip for the express purpose of endangering throngs of people. Some automatic weapons from this era—like the Mauser C96 or the grease gun—fired so quickly or with such dramatic recoil that soldiers found it impossible to aim anything but the first shot. Soldiers began tilting the weapons, so that the recoil sent the gun reeling in a horizontal rather than vertical arc, enabling them to spray bullets into an onrushing enemy battalion instead of over their heads.


20 posted on 12/14/2009 4:02:29 PM PST by Second Amendment First
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