Copenhagen climate conference: Ocean acidification could leave one billion people hungry (Huh?)

The Telegraph ^ | 11/14/2009 | Louise Gray

[mylife]

Mmmm... soft shell crab...

[mylife]

These same idiots want to use Carbon sequestration and pump the C02 into the seabeds.

These people are certifiable

[OldGuard1]

The logic is about partial pressures - the higher the partial pressure of a gas in air, the higher its concentration dissolved in liquid. This is a far greater effect than the saturation point change caused by a degree or two of temperature change. However, the whole thing all premised upon the notion of unbounded anthropogenic CO2 emissions with no natural adaptation, so it's hype either way. Life on earth was designed to adapt to changes. Bacteria reproduce every few HOURS. We're supposed to believe that they can't handle a change in acidity?

[Cruising Speed]

"animals and plants that have a calcium carbonate skeleton"

Extra carbon in the water will make for bigger, better skeletons for these critters. Excuse me while I dislodge this 30 foot lobster...

[RJL]

Copenhagen climate conference: Ocean acidification could leave one billion people hungry

Pikers! I'll see that and raise it to "could" leave ten billion people hungry.

[Roccus]

No more “global warming.”

No more “climate change.”

The new buzzword is “ocean acidification.”

I called this after the hearings a week or so ago.

[Eagle Eye]

Grasping at straws bump to the top.

[pallis]

As a Christian I’ve always accepted what I believe to be prophecies about a coming apocalypse, a string of catastrophes so severe that no man would live, were the times not cut short by the arrival of Jesus Christ. So, I’m no stranger to apocalyptic thinking, but I don’t understand the left’s predilection for environmental Armageddons. They run from one apocalyptic scenario to another, from acid rain to the ozone, to an ice age, to global warming, to climate change, over population, deforestation, flatulence, so on and so on. In five years Gore’s predictions of a melted polar icecap will be forgotten, and new apocalyptic scams will surface. When do people get tired of being scammed, paying for scams?

[Army Air Corps]

ping.

[JasonC]

They need to spin away the obvious fact that oceans are taking up the extra carbon and it does not remain in the atmosphere forever, and therefore all their doom mongering is nonsense. The whole idea that carbon is a pollutant, on a planet covered in carbon based life, is ridiculous beyond commentary.

[ClearCase_guy]

21 million years, huh. I’d like to see that data and where it came from.

And they would love to show it to you! Unfortunately, all of that data was destroyed -- 5 minutes after you asked about it.

[mylife]

I agree. The ocean is the worlds largest CO2 sink.

Think of it as a big old CO2 regulator

[JasonC]

The atmosphere can't warm the ocean appreciably because the heat capacity of the two systems is too vastly different. The oceans are the systems heat sink and can suck up every extra calorie they can find in their most ridiculous projections without warming even one degree.

[Army Air Corps]

When do people get tired of being scammed, paying for scams?

The People tire of these scams quite rapidly. The Political Class, on the other hand, never tire of new mechanisms to seperate the sheep from their fleece.

[mylife]

Yup. I agree that the thermal coefficient of water also comes into play.

Now.. I’m of to write a gubmint funded thesis...

[hellbender]

You seem knowledgeable about carbonate equilibria and the ocean. Is there any evidence that the ocean is actually becoming more acid?

Another factor is that CO2 is involved (and consumed) in weathering rocks, both carbonate and silicate. More CO2 means faster weathering. I'm not sure of all the ramifications, but faster weathering could mean more nutrients available for life (both on land and in the sea).

[hellbender]

You seem knowledgeable about carbonate equilibria and the ocean. Is there any evidence that the ocean is actually becoming more acid?

Another factor is that CO2 is involved (and consumed) in weathering rocks, both carbonate and silicate. More CO2 means faster weathering. I'm not sure of all the ramifications, but faster weathering could mean more nutrients available for life (both on land and in the sea).

[Roccus]

The whole oceanic acidification BS was laid out in the 12/2/09 House hearings

Videos at this link

http://globalwarming.house.gov/pubs?id=0014#main_content

[dsc]

The question is, how long are we going to put up with this kind of dishonesty?

[Roccus]

If you didn’t see it before, check out #38

It has ‘experiments’ an’ everything!! (/s)